My conversation with State Senator and doctor who exposes Medicare payouts for COVID-19 patients

As you’ll see by end of this article, the specific decisions about money mentioned here affect life and death outcomes for patients.

by Jon Rappoport

April 12, 2020

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A state senator has suddenly come out of nowhere and made big news.

My conversation with Minnesota State Senator, Dr. Scott Jensen, took place after I read the explosive statement he made to FOX News, on April 9th. So let’s start with his earlier FOX statement [1]:

“Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [don’t] [have] impact on what we do…”

I reached out to Senator Jensen, and obtained clarification. Jensen told me his remark pertained to patients with Medicare coverage. And the 2 payouts he mentioned are standard insurance payments from Medicare which would go to the hospital.

Of course, he explained, some hospitals have a pay-share plan with their staff doctors. Therefore, a windfall for the hospital is passed along to those doctors.

Jensen told me: Take a Medicare patient who is diagnosed with simple non-COVID pneumonia. The hospital would receive a one-time Medicare lump-sum payout of $4600.

However, if that Medicare patient is diagnosed with COVID-19 pneumonia, the Medicare coverage is a one-time $13,000 payment. And if the hospital puts that COVID-19 pneumonia patient on a ventilator, the one-time payment is $39,000. NOTE: It doesn’t matter how long these patients stay in hospital—there is only going to be one lump-sum insurance payment.

So, I infer, there are several types of financial incentives for hospitals—

ONE: Diagnose as many people as possible with COVID-19.

TWO: Diagnose as many people as possible with COVID-19 who have light symptoms—making it easy to move them out of the hospital quickly.

THREE: Put as many COVID patients as possible on ventilators for as short a time as possible.

Under the heading of “diagnose as many patients as possible with COVID-19,” there is also the key question of what constitutes “a COVID-19 patient”—and how the use of that label can be multiplied and manipulated. Senator Jensen made a few choice comments to FOX on this subject as well.

From FOX News: “Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota family physician who is also a Republican state senator, told ‘The Ingraham Angle’ Wednesday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) guidelines for doctors to certify whether a patient has died of coronavirus are ‘ridiculous’ and could be misleading the public.”

“Host Laura Ingraham read Jensen the [CDC] guidelines, which say: ‘In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID cannot be made but is suspected or likely (e.g. the circumstances are compelling with a reasonable degree of certainty) it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”

“In response, Jensen told Ingraham the CDC’s death certificate manual tells physicians to focus on ‘precision and specificity,’ but the coronavirus death certification guidance runs completely counter to that axiom.”

“’The idea that we are going to allow people to massage and sort of game the numbers is a real issue because we are going to undermine the [public] trust,’ he said. ‘And right now as we see politicians doing things that aren’t necessarily motivated on fact and science, their trust in politicians is already wearing thin’.”

“…Jensen then told Ingraham that under the CDC guidelines, a patient who died after being hit by a bus and tested positive for coronavirus would be listed as having presumed to have died from the virus regardless of whatever damage was caused by the bus.”

“…Jensen also reacted to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s response to a question about the potential for the number of coronavirus deaths being ‘padded,’ in which the NIAID director described the prevalence of ‘conspiracy theories’ during ‘challenging’ times in public health.”

“’I would remind him that anytime health care intersects with dollars it gets awkward,’ Jensen said.”

Here is where everything Scott Jensen is saying can turn very grim—

As I’ve reported [2], New York ER doctor, Cameron Kyle-Sidell [3], has made public statements about the misuse of ventilators with supposed COVID-19 patients. He’s stated that some of these patients actually have functioning lungs. Their immediate and dire life-threatening situation is straight oxygen deficit, as if they have high-altitude sickness. But pressure on the lungs, applied by the use of ventilators via standard rigid protocols, he says, can cause damage, and even death.

Imagine what would happen if another way—NOT ventilators—was found to usefully and safely deliver oxygen to these patients.

The hospitals wouldn’t get their huge $39,000 payout for each Medicare patient put on a ventilator.

What do you think a hospital would say…what decision would the hospital make…would the hospital allow a better and safer and necessary delivery system for oxygen? For every labeled “COVID-19 patient” whose desperate emergency is a straight deficit of oxygen?

Would the hospital forego all those huge Medicare coverage payouts?

SOURCES:
[1]: Minnesota doctor blasts ‘ridiculous’ CDC coronavirus death count guidelines
[2]: COVID and a 5G connection?
[3]: Dr Cameron Kyle Sidell. E R & Critical Care Dr From NYC


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103 comments on “My conversation with State Senator and doctor who exposes Medicare payouts for COVID-19 patients

  1. Steve pagliai says:

    Use iron lungs to save the person .

    • Interesting idea. For the reader, the iron lung is a huge contraption that creates negative air pressure on a patient’s body so that s/he can breathe if their lung muscles are weak. Not sure if they still use these because a VENTILATOR is a computerized POSITIVE air pressure unit, called a VENTILATOR, that I think is what CUOMO in NY is ordering. Note Jon’s discovery of MEDICARE PAYMENTS for these VENTILATORS… total conflict of interest where MONEY is causing the disease-label and subsequent DEVICE-treatment. LAWSUITS are in order I would say especially since covid patients seem to have low-oxygen intake… not mechanical lung-muscle problems. Total misdiagnosis on purpose for money! (if we’re right). MEDICARE is going to have to be LIABLE too.

      Other devices for people with problems breathing are CPAP which keeps the throat open and delivers periodic increased oxygen as a person sleeps. Quite a common device… advertised on TV by Bill Shatner… Captain Kirk on Star Trek. Another is the OXYGEN CONCENTRATOR that delivers periodic concentrated oxygen for older people since atmospheric oxygen of 17% or so might not be enough for their systems. Very common device now– still requires a prescription– and runs about $1000.

      The VENTILATOR obsession for what appears to be the problem of lower oxygen availability, which might be caused by the 60Mhz 5G effect on uptake of oxygen by the hemoglobin– (whew– long sentence)– MUST BE INTENTIONALLY being done since, if “I” can “figure this out” as a piano teacher… then “THEY” certainly can. So this essentially a COMPLICATED scam being driven from high levels… and accepted by all the connected organizations and people… thereby creating the CORONA CONSPIRACY.

      Now– just this morning I see news that Trump retweeted a call for firing Fauci. It turns out that Fauci is a big fulcrum upon which this CORONA CONSPIRACY turns. So… not only is EASTER SUNDAY to be regarded as a turning point… given Trump’s apparent declaration of emergency in all 50 states late last week… and his creation of the OOCCtf (Open Our Country Council task force).. to be fired up THIS week.. but now we see from Jon’s post here that the MEDICARE MONEY is an incentive for HOSPITALS to misdiagnose and mistreat. THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM must be COLLAPSED asap and people sent to prison.

      There are a lot of elements involved in this medical industry power play– we’ll need an ALPHABETICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA to track it all… not the least of which is likely the QUEEN OF ENGLAND– an imposter, really, when you study the history of BRITISH ROYALTY… and according to Anna Von Reitz, a connection to the PILGRAM SOCIETY (not connected the Pilgrims who sailed to America)… but possibly linked to the PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE… (whew!)

      • Binid says:

        Great comment, Rick.

      • Danica says:

        Great read and totally agree.

      • DarL says:

        Does wearing any type of mask cause low oxygen intake? What about constantly breathing in carbon dioxide? Half the sanitizers I see have soo many chemicals in them. Seems all the preventative things we are told to do is going to cause more long range problems.

      • lamberth says:

        Rick,
        Just a minor correction regarding your great comment.
        It’s 60GHz for the 5G frequency you talk about, not 60MHz.

      • Caz holb says:

        Hi,
        Most definitely ordered by our Crown and that’s what Corona in Greek means The Crown. The walls where closing in on some members of the British Royals with Prince Andrew the Queens son was heavily involved with Paedophiles and sexual predators. Prince Harry and his American Wife have left the Institute for America and in a video leaked Harry told a reporter if you knew what I know as a father and husband you would understand why I have to do this, what did he mean, what does he know and bad enough to give up his Royal statis.Is it regarding this lie or maybe one from when he was a child when a lot say his mother was deliberately ordered to be killed and Harry is not Charles son.
        The Queen gets the final say in this country, supposed to be neutral but even to go to war.
        Like your country this also has a lot to do with our NHS (national health service). Before the crisis they were failing big time, the public was losing confidence in the Institution and it was showing with a record number of legal negligence cases being or been dealt with. Even my own father was treated disgracefully after a botched operation, another guy I know just before Christmas went in our local hospital for a simple hernia operation, his family never got to see him alive again he died in the recovery room. Oh but know the NHS staff are all super heroes and every week the country goes out side clapping them for their bravery, of course I know they think it’s a deadly virus and it’s not their fault, but can you see how easily people forget
        Sad is all i can say

        Keep safe all

    • John B says:

      Transfuse with people who have iron overload

  2. Sandman says:

    Solid info that most of the sheeple will disregard due to their fear, stupidity and ignorance.

    • Piksil says:

      Sandman:

      Agree 100%. Unfortunately, despite the facts that are out there (perhaps it’s better to say the lack of facts supporting the narrative of this ‘global pandemic’), people are just going to accept what few (if any) rights and liberties are returned.
      As in post 9-11 times, people accept the e-raping and/or hand raping by TSA. But hey, 2 ‘airplanes’ haven’t brought down 3 buildings designed to withstand jet airline crashes since (or ever before, but that’s not important), so that is working!
      Hope they get that vaccine out soon. Bill Gates says it’s the only thing that’s going to work, so that we can go to a concert and not fear killing grandma with the corona.
      I think I’ll take the hand raping. They wear gloves and a badge. Apparently that makes it legal.

  3. Greg C. says:

    Even people who can’t multiply or divide or understand how to interpret statistics can understand what’s going on here. Turn $4600 into $39,000, easy. Well, they are not getting the numbers they expected, so a lot of those ventilators are not going to be used. Mortality from ordinary flu and many other causes is continuing to outpace COVID this year. The show is almost over. They will have to let us get back to our lives.
    https://www.youtube.com/post/UgxTqZPSm9Yd0onhQAt4AaABCQ

  4. craig says:

    I was wrong, this is a giant well coordinated hoax.

  5. Allen says:

    I have been telling people for weeks that the hospitals have a financial incentive to cook the books here. In a sense you almost can’t blame them as they have been starved of funds and resources for years. However in practice today’s hospitals are not some stand alone brick and mortar buildings where “good” doctors heal the sick. They are now but one aspect of the medical establishment that turns people’s ill fortunes into profits.

    As part of the stimulus package payments to providers are increased by 20% for COVID-19 related cases. You tell me that won’t provide incentives for upping the number of COVID cases.

    Another aspect of the bill provides funding for the ambiguous “preventive services” which are loosely defined as “immunization or any other item or service intended to “prevent or mitigate coronavirus disease.”

    I don’t think they mean affordable healthy food for everyone to boos their immune system- which of course would be the real solution for this and other seasonal viruses.

    Jon – can you go into greater details on the pay share plan. I think that is useful information to have here. Good post.

  6. CJ76 says:

    We the taxpayers should sue for Medicare fraud.

    We are the ones being overcharged illegally.

  7. George says:

    I thought the Republican party was so much of a money conscious organization boy but what about this mess they ought to quit this stuff. Heaven Help Us all that’s all I have to say

  8. From Quebec says:

    WOW THE CORRUPTION IS BEYOND BELIEF

    IT IS TIME TO DRAIN THE SWAMP.

  9. Richard Ochs says:

    This is a horrible situation. Ventilator tubes are so painful to put in that they have to sedate patients because it often lacerates one’s throat. Then when one wakes up before they pull the tube out, it is a terrifying experience because it feels like you are being choked by the tube. They have to let you wake up first to see if you can breath on your own without the machine. If they pulled the tube out before you wake up and you can’t breathe without it, then they have to lacerate your already sore throat again to put it back in, often quickly without sedation so one does not suffocate. And as your posting says, the machine can kill you if it is turned up too high or run too long, which can cause your lungs to never wake up on their own. I know because I’ve had a stomach tube put in me and my son-in-law had a ventilator experience. It is horrible that a hospital would torture someone for profit.

    Here’s an idea to correct the situation. If I have to go to a hospital, I want to take my personal physician for a second opinion, a patient advocate. The law needs to be changed to give a patient some money for that purpose. It would save Medicare money because it would prevent unnecessary procedures. Even before the pandemic, 20% of all operations covered by indemnity insurance were unnecessary. Procedures cost a lot more money than a second opinion. All patients should have medical advocates and money to pay them. You may forward your posting and my response to your congressperson to change the law.

    My analogy doesn’t work for health maintenance organizations, where one has to fight to get necessary procedures 20% of the time. But here you are talking about Medicare.

    • TJ says:

      Interesting bc I just saw some comments saying doctors (not sure which country) told their families they did NOT want to be put on ventilators if they got CV and things got complicated. They obviously know the danger.

  10. Dragonslayer says:

    Cha-ching! $$$ The fleecing of the public has a new venue. It’s a giant transference of wealth scheme where the doctors and hospitals will be richly rewarded for their participation but guess who will be stuck with the bill? Since the pharmaceutical industry secured immunity from causing any harm, this will be their version of a printing press. Nanny state tactics.

  11. From Quebec says:

    I WONDER WHY Minnesota State Senator, Dr. Scott Jensen DID NOT TELL PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.

    MAYBE HE DOES NOT LIKE TRUMP, Who knows? IF I WAS A US SENATOR I WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM RIGHT AWAY INSTEAD OF GOING ON FOX NEWS.

    • za ka lu says:

      why not tell prez initially?

      a) this story (FOX, MSM) and cohort State Senator Dr. Scott Jensen is a part of the public psychodrama—this info may be of value to better see what is going on, but only as participants, sidebar plot-line to the drama. Info alone and Sen Scott, Congress, will not stop anything, are not meant to stop anything, cannot stop anything—

      b) office of prez is not what we think it is.

      c) we are now an overtly occupied nation/land. Foreign invaders have now openly implemented the overthrow of the alleged ‘gov’t for and by the people’… man has no representation in this occupied land, and really never have in our entire lives.

      Everyone must come to grips, any semblance of what we were led to ‘believe’ is USA is gone, we are under OCCUPATION!!!

      • Imnaha says:

        The coup de grace was when they disallowed the people from auditing the gov books, as in “nunya damn bizness”. IOW we are now officially out of the loop as far as being able to hold our government (and it’s owners) accountable for ANYTHING.

        • za ka lu says:

          Imnaha,
          I see it going further, if this GOV’T is ‘owned’ by some other party, then it is Not Mine. This has never been ‘our’ GOV’T. CITIZENS are a holding in ‘their’ ‘bizness’ model, not the holder.

          We have been lied to our entire lives.

          And also the CONSTITUTION cannot be suspended in times of emergency etc etc, due to the fact is was never appended or binding as an enforceable lawful contract to begin with. Mythos. Make Believe.

          the CON goes very, very, very deep.

      • Lydia says:

        So true. Chattel slavery is what this technically is. Collateralization through bankruptcy.

        The constitution is suspended during states of emergency.

  12. el gallinazo says:

    Hmmm, lungs of patients appearing to have high altitude illness. Wonder if that has any connection with the 60 GHz component of the 5G rollout. 60 GHz has a 98% radiation absorbance by the O2 molecule. This raises the quantum bond energies of the molecule making it incompatible with bonding to the iron atom center of hemoglobin in the red corpuscles until such time as the additional energy is released from the molecule as a photon. Net result could be a human starved for oxygen while at or near sea level.

    • Yes, that I can verify through my other sources I’ve been looking at. So not only do we have the CORONA CONSPIRACY as I described above… we have the 5G conspiracy– the entire TELECOMMUNICATIONS industry COLLUDING with the entire MEDICAL INDUSTRY… for a SUPER-CONSPIRACY… each wing reinforcing the other… leading to this stupid world wide shutdown including the shutdown of my guitar/keyboard store and piano lessons– which really ticked me off. They should NOT have struck fear into my piano students. For that, we need to bring this SUPER-CONSPIRACY down…

      If they had only left my piano business alone, I would have just left them to their stupid games. But no… they had to close my favorite restaurants and bars and my store. THAT spells war to me.

  13. Eluard says:

    Hi Jon,

    I really think you should adapt your many cornona plandemic articles into book form. I would buy it in a heartbeat. You’ve already got so many themes woven into this story, from the “one cause for one disease” scam to the worship of virus metaphyical satire and the perpetual lies and deceptions of the medical cartel. If the world were right you’d be nominated this year for a Pulitzer. Book–please!

  14. ZiiNon says:

    One more piece of evidence showing how payors dictate what care is given to the patient.
    Pretty soon we won’t have need for doctors, they will be obsolete. They don’t do what is best for the patient but what will be reimbursed by the payors. Don’t believe me, proof is in pre authorization process, rvu’s, etc.

    • Well, given that I’m regarding Easter Sunday as the TURNING POINT where WE the people start going after and ripping apart the CORONA-CONSPIRACY, allow me to point to a quote by the said-to-have-risen-again-previously-CRUCIFIED-Jesus H. Christ– “The LOVE of Money is the ROOT of ALLLLL evil”. (Mathew). Not just SOME evil. Not this evil, or that evil. ALLLL evil.

      The beneficiaries of this evil corona conspiracy will, I think, be the now-more-educated-on-microwave-communications-populace, the RF METER manufacturers, the microwave protective clothing industry, the natural health industry via immune system boosting and the OPTIC FIBRE industry which will now get us linked to the net by wiring that “last mile” once we repurpose all those stupid cell phone towers as WIRED STATIONS where we can build terminals to connect to with WIRES– insulated wires– instead of having them transmit deadly OXYGEN destroyed microwaves over us. It’s really obscene what’s been done here. WIFI system will have to be shelved as well.

  15. Kathy Pearsall says:

    I hope we can save universal health care in Canada after this “pandemic” because the U.s. health care system is seriously messed up.

  16. Dee says:

    No wonder so many seniors are hospitalized with this virus. Medicare gives the hospital a HUGE payout & then hook ’em up to a ventilator & they get paid MORE than the cost of the ventilator 3X more even IF they don’t need it! Being that we have a lot of “Doctor owned” hospitals, they are cleaning up!!

    WHY is our Government ENCOURAGING & SUBSIDIZING this virus??? NO WONDER it is predicted that Medicare will run out of fund! THIS IS INSANE!

  17. Kuru says:

    This really needs to be mainstream news.

    Not many comments today. Wonder if everybody sneaked out of social distancing and had a big Easter feast!

  18. Sue J Love says:

    I just read this article this morning on Global Research, and it made me think of what you just wrote about here, Jon, regarding all the corruption in our government and how they take advantage of their own citizens.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/chemical-and-biological-weapons-the-us-government-waged-a-war-against-its-own-citizens/5709255

    • NaturalWoman says:

      Thanks for this, Sue. In the early 70s, I had info about the CIA releasing bacteria into the NYC subway system, then monitoring the hospitals to see how many got sick. This stuff is beyond evil. Time to begin courts as per Nuremberg for crimes against humanity. And public hangings! We have become what we hated.

  19. From Elsewhere says:

    Will Fauci and Birx face prosecution for their public stance and actions, predicting 200,000 deaths and falling back to 60,000, for example? People beg to be led, but this is horrible! How can someone claim to be an expert and act like this, without any opposition?

  20. peterbro says:

    Here is one fired doctor who is sick of the lies and fraud regarding this covid19:

    https://phiquyenchinh.org/2020/04/12/is-it-real-folks-watch-and-decide-for-yourself/

    His advice – take zinc and drink Tonic Water, it has quinine!

    • Plamen says:

      He looks like controlled opposition to me.

      On one hand, he said that as a doctor he could get prosecuted for giving nutritional advice and yet he does it publicly.

      Quinine has some very alarming side affects, plus tonic water would have sugar which lowers your vit C absortion.

      Too much zinc will lower copper which is anti-bacterial.

      • za ka lu says:

        similar on this Senator Doctor Scott in this article Plamen–

        “The idea that we are going to allow people to massage and sort of game the numbers is a real issue because we are going to undermine the [public] trust,’ he said. ‘And right now as we see politicians doing things that aren’t necessarily motivated on fact and science, their trust in politicians is already wearing thin”.

        “Going to undermine trust”?? Trust wearing thin”??

        There is no trust and has not been for years and years!!!

        This is proof of the ploy, get us thinking we still trust them (that they are trustworthy) that this gov’t is still what we have been told (lied to) it is. Keep playing ‘our’ (controller’s psychodrama) game, because see, this Senator cares, that is why he went straight to FOX NEWS to ‘inform’ the ‘people’. (Rather than attempt to actually stop it).

        Get it??-

        This is land is under Foreign Occupation!!

      • Lydia says:

        THat’s funny that as a Dr. he could be prosecuted for giving nutritional advice.

        Hippocrates, whose oath these men and women take, wrote that the first man who cooked and ate a plant, he was the first doctor.

        What a world.

    • Natalie says:

      Vitamin C is far more effective against anything (even the Chinese hospitals started using it as part of their protocol). Colloidal silver and various immune supporting herbs are a must, too. Also, most folks are toxic today and would benefit from regular detox and cleansing (sweating, enemas, intermittent fasting, deworming, etc.) Our ancestors did regular detoxing and had far less chronic disease.

  21. Moshe Sopher says:

    SUGGESTIONS FOR GRADUALLY OPENING UP THE ECONOMY FROM APRIL WHILE KEEPING UP THE FARCE OF THE FAKE DISEASE COVID19:

    1. Open up manufacturing/maintenance/repair industries with 4 shifts…each shift 6 hours…only 25% of workforce per shift.

    2. Open up public transport…

    * Buses – 1 passenger per small seat, 2 passengers on a seat. 5 standees.

    * Trains – 2 passengers per small seat. 3-4 passengers per large seats. 10 standees per compartment.

    * Private cars and taxis – driver + 1 passenger in backseat.

    *Air travel – 1 passenger per seat in economy and business classes

    3. Restaurants – 2 persons per table seated diagonally across.

    4. Malls: entry to 50% people

    5. Theatres: 1 person every alternate seat.

    6. Offices: 3 shifts..1/3 staff per shift

    7. Beaches and gardens:
    Ensure people sit or walk alone.

    8. Educational institutions –

    * students called in small groups to schools and colleges for science practicals.

    *No classroom lectures.

    *Lectures and assignments online.

    * Tests and exams should be conducted by calling groups of 10 students at a time per class to orally answer and write papers in classrooms thrice a year.

    • za ka lu says:

      this ‘kinder, gentler’ premise only supports, validates however erroneously this Coup d’état taking place—makes it appear as valid to say let’s just be a gentler, kinder version of ghastly totalitarian control—(hmmm, who did I hear say gentler, kinder before??)

      Ensure people sit and walk alone on the beach, Moshe?? That would be fine, aye?

      Only way to win ‘their’ game is Not to Play!

      We have no representative gov’t, we are in a hostile foreign occupied land in a hostile foreign occupied world.

    • Lydia says:

      Since lawyers run the world anyway, just have them draw up a bind indemnity agreement. You wanna work? Sign this waiver and the floor is yours.

      Of course, this could have been done months ago. I was advocating for it then. But then this has never been about reality.

  22. Mark says:

    Often here reading, but first time replying.

    This article is heartbreaking. Bottom line = lies and death for money. I guess it ain’t surprising.

    • Oh, yeah is is. Its surprising to even the MOST CYNICAL of us because this CORONA CONSPIRACY has taken “lies for death and money” to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL… So– yeah… this is not MERELY surprising… it’s abolutely SHOCKING, “other worldly horrifying”… as if there is even something MORE to it than what we’ve talked about here… like maybe a SILICON BASED ALIEN super A.I…. or REPTILIANS from another dimension. This is NOT “merely” not surprising. This is world-shattering horribleness beyond description.

      • za ka lu says:

        rick, I have often read in my search for remedy that the alleged reptilian invaders cant breath/survive in high oxygen content found as natural occurring air on earth—I valid, fits the depleting of oxygen 5G tech agenda, terra-re-forming for their overt ‘occupation’…

        whatever is the case, USA is now overtly overthrown, occupied territory.

  23. tripletail says:

    The PCR test is a fraud. The COVID-19 virus is a fraud. And, now, we find hospitals are making money off of both frauds. Classic! Nice work, Jon!

  24. stanley becker says:

    keep up the good work Jon – thank you for caring – much aprecciated

  25. ReluctantWarrior says:

    We can start calling it ‘Covidgate.’

  26. Moshe Sopher says:

    COINCIDENCE OR PLANNED?

    Occult’s biggest annual human sacrifice (notably child sacrifice) dedicated to the Babylonian deities Baal, Moloch & Baphomet from April 19-May 1, 2020.

    Recently, I heard reports of tens of thousands of kidnapped children transported via tunnels and ships from New York and other parts of the world to select spots for these witchcraft ceremonies.

    The Globalists are said to be deeply involved in human sacrifice as they love torture, fear & murder.

    Expect to see Jacob Rothschild, David Rockefeller, Fords, Bushes, European aristocracy, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Anthony Fauci, Li family members from China, King Salman, Laxmi Mittal, WHO top executives and others at the top secret human sacrifice ceremonies.

    I have heard since years through the testimonies of Kathy O’Brien and other Globalist sex slaves how the mob gets frenzied during the killings of kids…Queen Elizabeth reportedly loves eating beating human hearts ripped out from sacrificed persons..reports of finding human remains and bones in the Buckingham Palace grounds have come to light…

    I’ve seen frenzied looks in the eyes of terrorists, murderers, gangsters, religious fanatics, suicidal individuals & in the eyes of other mentally ill people including the key Globalists and their shills.

    Is it a coincidence that the puppet governments around the world are talking about the opening up of lockeddown nations on May 1?

    Has this date May 1 (or somewhere in early May) got anything to do with the mass human sacrifice ceremonies scheduled to be conducted around the world from April 19 to May 1?

    Thinking..

    • Lydia says:

      “Expect to see Jacob Rothschild, David Rockefeller, Fords, Bushes, European aristocracy, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Anthony Fauci, Li family members from China, King Salman, Laxmi Mittal, WHO top executives and others at the top secret human sacrifice ceremonies.”

      Between adrenachrome martinis, I’ll be sure to keep an eye out for at least two or three.

      filteroff

    • Ythim says:

      Can I go, Schlomo?

  27. Emily1 says:

    Add to this the fact that on February 4th, DHHS issued a declaration through the PREP act granting liability immunity to pretty much any entity providing “covid 19 countermeasures” – which I imagine means that if they kill your loved one with the unnecessary use of a ventilator, you can’t sue.

    • Right, there was also something about that I heard from a guest on Noori’s C2C a few nights ago where the 9/11 inspired PATRTIOT ACT made it possible for pharma to get away with things in 2001, then these laws got expanded by W BUSH in 2005… just a vague memory of that reference but worth dropping into our INDEX where we’ll assemble a vast COUNTER-MOVE against this massive corona-conspiracy.

      • za ka lu says:

        …STATUTES, ACTS, CODES, ORDINANCES, RULES, COURTS etc etc etc etc are just for us ‘the masses’, to deceive us into thinking their actions are ‘LEGAL’, that there is a legitimate system in place that we must Obey, that ‘they’ are now ‘allowed’ to do this or that by our consent. Psychodrama.

        ‘They’ do whatever they want, our informed consent has never existed.

        ‘Their’ posited colorable ‘Rule of Law’ only applies to the masses for exploitation of.

    • Lydia says:

      Well, yeah….

      Then we can all get back to the office.

    • za ka lu says:

      Emily1,
      We here are taking covid 19 countermeasures, so we too are free from ‘prosecution’. 🙂

  28. Lynn says:

    Thanks for this very informative article

  29. Janet says:

    Jon,

    I’ve been reading your work for years, and admire your devotion to exposing truth.

    Sadly, people perceive what they believe, as I’ve discovered again and again – family, friends, choose the lens they wish to “perceive” through based on beliefs they fear to lose hold of.

    Ultimately, it’s a fear of the unseen – the uncontrollable – The infinite potential of not knowing.

    How perfect for the manipulators and controllers to use those exact triggers as their domination tools.

    Thank you for your devotion- for those with ears to hear.

  30. Emily1 says:

    A really important analysis of the way financial instruments are being built to take propel and advantage of this event.

    wrenchinthegears.com/2020/04/13/mind-the-gap-the-violence-of-pandemic-dashboards/

  31. Jeroen says:

    Dr Kyle-Sidell could not continue with the current protocol and had to step down from his position in the ICU. He is back in the ER ( https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156#vp_2 ).

    As for the current protocol: “While not willing to name the hospitals at this time, [Dr. Gattinoni] said that one center in Europe has had a 0% mortality rate among COVID-19 patients in the intensive care unit when using this approach, compared with a 60% mortality rate at a nearby hospital using a protocol-driven approach” ( https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928236#vp_1 ).

    If covid-19 is a “new disease” as Kyle-Sidell suggests, what causes it?

    Assuming sars-cov-2 exists (which it doesn’t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y&t=2310s ) it is similar to the sars virus and unlikely to cause something entirely new.

    It is not 5g ( https://www.sott.net/article/432308-5G-or-Virus-The-Data-Speaks-For-Itself ).

    Probably the (relatively) new treatment is the culprit ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3316854/#b6 )

  32. Plamen says:

    I wonder if something similar is going on with the UK’s NHS. I heard that all cancer patients have been diverted to private hospitals.

    Who pays for that?

    • Caz holb says:

      The taxpayer, just like everything, they make you think it’s free, but it comes from government funding, which is public money, another con

      • Caz holb says:

        Oh and a lot of charitable donations also a con and sell offs to private interests on another con…..they. Just go on and on

  33. Piksil says:

    As a healthcare worker (now, over 40 years total), I have to add my 2 cents (after taxes):

    Most of the PEOPLE (doctors, nurses, ancillary staff) working in a healthcare setting have a basic drive to help people. Most. When presented in an emergent situation, i.e. respiratory distress, they’re going to do what they’ve been taught to do to save a life. (ABC=Airway, Breathing, Circulation.) They are not thinking, nor reminded or encouraged by other staff present, to consider financial benefits prior to emergent treatment. (They are, however, mandated to consider the patients wishes in regards to end of life care, or DNR, which has taken a while to be part of the norm in healthcare.)
    That has been my experience in small town hospitals and larger, urban, teaching hospitals.
    That being said, my issues with the current medical model is with the policy makers, especially since the mid-1980s when government/business started taking over healthcare.
    Realize that these guidelines have emerged from the top down, not from suggestions from the bottom up. And realize that, most likely, some of these guidelines did NOT originate in the minds of trained health care professionals, but from bean counters. Bill Gates is not a physician, but he states he’s an expert on viruses? And vaccines?

    (Disclosure: I have not been employed by a for-profit healthcare organization; those that have, please chime in.)

    Event 201 was an exercise to work on a global HEALTH pandemic. Look at the website and see who the actors (their description) are, and their professions. Their portrayed world seem to be the world we are living in now.

    Lastly, the reimbursement rates for payment for services are not set by the provider…..it comes from the top, and is dependent on crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s. Health care institution have to jump through a lot of hoops (starting with licensure, certification, being surveyed, etc.) just to open their doors, keep them open, hire qualified employees, and bill for services. Your local healthcare provider is likely just trying to help, the best way they’ve been taught to do, despite the restrictions that continually increase, and (usually, can’t say 100% in all cases), in spite of financial incentives.

    • za ka lu says:

      what is a not-for-profit healthcare organization?

      sounds much like the ‘foundations’ of the rich and famous use to shelter and control wealth.

      • Piksil says:

        za ka lu:

        Yup, kind of an oxymoron! But there are For Proft (stated as such) healthcare organizations out there.

        The hospitals I have worked for have 2 budgets, like most businesses do: an operating budget, and a capital budget. Capital budgets are used for growth and improvements (required all the time by the regulatory agencies!), and I’ve seen (as a department head) in the past, funds from the capital budget used to meet the operating budget. I would hazard a guess that there are more “not for profit” than “for profit” healthcare organizations out there.
        They all have to make a profit to remain viable. Some years are better than others. This could be a good year for most hospitals, but I have my doubts. With elective surgical cases being cut or eliminated in some cases, and outpatient services being reduced, limited, or eliminated, I would imagine a lot of organizations are going to face a deficit, as these services generate a lot of revenue, compared to many inpatient and emergency services.
        But I don’t think that will make doctors go around intubating/ventilating corona patients just to make more money. Too many ethical people as the worker bees for that to happen (including a lot of the doctors).

        I wonder what the dollar amount reimbursed is for corona testing?

        I also wonder if getting the information out on the reimbursement is an attempt to divert attention from the top of the heap of this stinking plandemic? Can mortuaries charge more for corona deaths?

        Please don’t take this as an intended slam against Jon’s post, or yours. As I stated in the other post, I have issues with the current medical model. I say “this isn’t what I signed up for back then”, referring to what has happened to the healthcare system since I started. What is happening now, at the bottom, the ‘front lines’, is just concerned people trying to help sick people. That this is not because of corona is not the fault of the people caring for the sick (and people are sick). The issue(s) is/are way above my pay grade!

        • za ka lu says:

          thanks Piksil.

          this story a diversion?, very likely to most probably. Make someone(s) else the fall guy dejour…chaos.

          one aspect of it all I can really say with absolute certainty is that there is no informed consent.

  34. John says:

    is there a there data showing deaths segregated as in side Hospital and outside of hospital. Or Just wondering how many died in Hospital and How many outside of Hospital.

  35. From Elsewhere says:

    A family was promised $2,500 by a hospital manager in order to accept ‘covid-19’ as the cause of death for their child, who fell on the stairs injuring his head…

  36. Diane DiFlorio says:

    I’m in Ontario Canada and since we have basic medical coverage for all I wonder how that works here. One thing I’ve noticed however is it’s mainly Long Term Care Facilities that have had the most deaths. Mostly people 80 plus of age and I would expect have underlying health conditions in the first place, or they wouldn’t be there.
    I wonder if they are receiving extra $$ during this time and if there too have “incentives” to make a COVID-19 diagnosis.

  37. The Watchman says:

    Great article, Jon. Once again, it’s all about the money!!!!!!!!!!
    Linking as usual@https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

  38. Linda says:

    Jon has any one sent Trump the info on 5g? I see he sign papers to let it happen but does Trump know the side effects to human life? Please someone send him this info? Is he being fooled by all this or does he know?

    • From Quebec says:

      That is the problem. i have noticed that every people who knows about this corruption WILL NEVER TELL TRUMP ABOUT IT. THEY WANT THE GLORY FOR THEMSELVES. MOST OF THEM HATE TRUMP ANYWAY. THEY SEE HIM AS AN IDIOT WHO WAS building TOWERS.

      BUT WHAT THE SNOB PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, IS THAT IF THEY WOULD ADVICE TRUMP ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW ALL THIS HOAX WOULD HAVE ALREADY ENDED. TRUMP IS NOT AFRAID OFANYBODY AND ANYTHING, HE IS LIKE AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM .

  39. za ka lu says:

    see Senators really do care!! Dr Scott Jensen went straight to MSM!!

    • Piksil says:

      za ka lu:

      Did any MSM outlet other than Fox cover it? I tried a quick search, only found the Fox story. A CBS report looks like disinformation, with a reference to Fauci calling some of these ideas “conspiracy theories”, and doesn’t even mention the figures. Other links about him not running for office again, his age, etc. I didn’t see the news, so I’m wondering if the rest of the MSM is just gonna bury it?

    • Piksil says:

      Forgot to add:

      Speaking of the MSM….has anyone seen coverage of the recent (corona) protest at the Ohio State Cap Building? A woman interviewed said she didn’t think the risk of the virus was nearly as bad as the taking away of liberties.
      Guessing it won’t get much coverage.
      Plenty of coverage, I’m guessing, about the Florida church that decided to hold Easter service. And the state troopers collecting license plate information.

      • za ka lu says:

        nice to hear Piksil some are seeing not to comply/obey…

        license plates refer to their Glossa text LEGAL NAME (NAME on CERT OF LIVE BIRTH, LICENSES, REGISTRATIONS), do Not answer to Their NAME!! Do Not acquiesce to intimidation!! Do Not show DRIVER LICENSE, do not stop, do not answer questions, do not acknowledge those of hidden and unknown that are without standing!!…

        Do not take the bait of presumptive authority!! do not be their dupe!!

        Write ‘Under Duress’ on car plates and registration, all licences, send Notice to STATE of them having No Privity into your Private Estate, cancelling all alleged contracts with this hostile foreign invader posing as legitimate gov’t!!*

        When could any of us have through informed consent negotiated and agreed to these new terms and conditions of ‘distancing’ etc?? Never that’s when!! No Fair and Correct Offer was ever even tendered of which could have led to valid negotiations!! Any semblance of legitimate government* is now without question in Breach Of Contract!!

        No Compelled Performance, No Informed Consent!! There is No enforceable agreement, so Do Not answer to their LEGAL NAME!! This is Critical!!!

        *legitimate government is paradoxical

        • Piksil says:

          za ka lu:

          Thank you!
          I agree that it’s nice to see that some groups are resisting!
          (Note: the church shown was in Kentucky, not Florida.)
          Interesting that the video of the troopers at the church service parking lot in KY were placing notices on vehicle windshields, but we’re not wearing gloves or masks. So, somehow they knew that no one got out of their car and coughed a corona on the windshield. (Guess those mirrored sunglasses have built in electron microscopes, or rapid-readout corona virus test kits….I want some of those!)
          Apparently a judge in KY ruled that the order for that church not to hold parking lot services was invalid, and went so far as to say that it sounded like it came from a “dystopian novel”! (Bet he’s not a judge much longer, at least there.)

          And it was reported that some covered their license plates, so the troopers recorded the VIN #.

          Agree re: No Informed Consent! (Have you read Bork’s book “The Red Amendment”?)

          • za ka lu says:

            have not read Bork’s book “The Red Amendment”–will look it up. thx

            VIN # as well only means anything if someone is answering to symbolic FIRST MIDDLE LAST NAME—
            Everyone again, the Glossa symbol deceitfully called a name ie; JOHN DOE SMITH, is a deceitful creation of the STATE, derived without permission from our true name ie; john doe, and incorrectly combined with the clan/family/tribe name. It is Not our true name, it is their cognomen trick for joinder!! Having us live as ‘their’ corrupted symbol in artificial value SYSTEM for exploitation.

            ‘Order out of Chaos’–rearrangement of all from meaningful deceit.

            Take control of your Private Estate, serve notice and live with clean hands, and all the license plates, vin#’s etc only represent the fraud of using our true name without consent.

            The system is nothing, based on fraud, is VOID when a man knows his proper standing. And now is perfect time to proclaim this as the SYSTEM has changed all of their terms and conditions, there has never been a better time to sever the fraudulent coercive joinder.
            I’m not just saying this, I have first hand experiential knowledge of this being the crux of their posited ‘authority’.

          • za ka lu says:

            FYI, any amendment to the CONSTITUTION is not binding on anyone, it is a trick, as the CONSTITUTION is not binding onto anyone!

            There are no signatories, no one alive today was involved in it’s ‘negotiations’ if there ever was any valid true and correct negotiating (doesn’t really matter, it was Never Signed by Any Party!! It is none-binding to Anyone!!).
            A contract cannot bind future generations of those not yet born (duh) and cannot bind any party not offered a seat at the table of direct negotiations. I was not there, were any of you?

            Furthermore, I have never been offered a valid true and correct opportunity (have any of you?) to consent or dissent, just ‘told’ I am bound as a ‘CITIZEN’* to this alleged contract I never signed or negotiated, was not even alive upon its creation.
            The courts and all of the SYSTEM ignore the CONSTITUTION unless can ‘appear’ to be of ‘use’ to the agenda, keeping us duped. There are no valid oaths to uphold, can’t be as there is nothing to uphold.

            All is as fake as the LEGAL NAME, supported with monuments and statues of supposed dead guys who did it all for us!! (gag now)

            The united States of America grew out of some party sailing to the shores of this land and planting a flag in the ground saying “this land is now ours”, disregarding the 10’s of millions of people already here and the millenia’s of established articulate culture.

            The CONSTITUTION would not stand up as valid contract even in the rigged kangaroo court system. It is all a CON.

            *what a CITIZEN is, is factually contractually hidden and unknown. No one can consent to unknown.

        • Natalie says:

          I understand your sentiment but I don’t want to be dragged to jail and CPS taking my child away because I refuse to show my driver’s license.

  40. za ka lu says:

    also Jensen’s use of word “Trust’, could mean the public trust as in administrator, beneficiary, trustee, the monetary trust arrangement is being undermined and wearing thin—

  41. Larry C says:

    INSERT EVERY LAST GOD-DAMNED CUSS WORD YOU’VE EVER HEARD IN THIS SPACE….

  42. Laura says:

    That Dr. Jensen is brave and honest…two things that just won’t do! As always, follow the money, especially megalomaniac Gates’ $100 billion.

    One has to wonder what ever happened to pneumonia which severely inflicts about 1.3 million Americans every year and gets them hospitalized, with about a 5% death rate. We’re about halfway to those numbers with “covid” as of today. I don’t find any flu/pneumonia stats for this year, but then they may be out there, somewhere? Hah, as if official “stats” mean anything these days.

    • Piksil says:

      Laura:

      My guess is that, like 2009 “Swine Flu Pandemic”, all pneumonia cases will be recorded as “covid” since the first reported case. The guidelines have been handed down from on high to encourage that to be done. And I wonder if, like 2009, testing will even be completed, or if we will just go by symptoms and presume “covid”. (I don’t think they would announce that publicly, since Sharyl Attkisson blew the whistle on that happening in ’09). That would/could give them the numbers to keep the lockdown in place, and meet their stated predictions (goals?).

      • Laura says:

        Goals, definitely. Lunatic Gates (their head honcho) might just completely take over this asylum if he’s not stopped and put in a prison for the criminally insane real soon.

  43. Dug says:

    What I’m finding humorous in a pathetic way is that within my first decade of life I had already determined that things did not smell right. So long as people’s have what they desire then who really cares is what I’ve witnessed in 6 decades. Now folks are acting surprised like oh my god how could this have come to be? This whole mess is already boring the heck out of me! Bring on the next level because there won’t be any justice served and we know that.
    Sure nice to balance things out with Jon’s view points though!

  44. Michael LaCroix says:

    Anyone have any info about what’s happening in NY? There seem to be a number of patients presenting with the hypoxic symptoms described by the the NY ER MD who made a video describing this last week. Are we looking at 5G exposure or bioweapon..

    • Laura says:

      Hypoxia can happen with pneumonia, which is what these people are ill with and what’s killing some, in my estimation anyways. I believe all severe cases of “covid” are our usual approx. 1.3 million severe pneumonia cases per year, which have a 5% death rate.

  45. W. says:

    Can you please publish a DIRECT link to the MediCare payouts to hospitals? Straight from MediCare themselves?

    I’m having a hard time finding the source material for that. I’m doing my best to advocate this information but it’s making credibility difficult without direct source links.

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