Vegas security guard cancels interviews, then goes missing; concert witness escapes shooting uninjured, testifies there were multiple shooters, then dies at home

Vegas security guard cancels interviews, goes missing; concert witness escapes shooting uninjured, then found dead at home

by Jon Rappoport

October 15, 2017

FOX News, Friday, October 13: “Where in the world is Jesus Campos?”

“The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos’ union president said.”

“Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn’t immediately clear where he was.”

Did Campos decide his account of the shooting would become a problem for him, because it would contradict the official scenario? Did his Mandalay Hotel employer, or the police, tell him to keep his mouth shut?

According to police, the accused shooter, Stephen Paddock, fired 200 rounds through his hotel room door at Campos, wounding him in the leg, either six minutes BEFORE Paddock started shooting at the concert crowd, or at about the same time Paddock started shooting at the concert attendees. The official timeline of events keeps changing.

On a practical level, the timeline would become very important if lawsuits are filed against the Mandalay owners.

Meanwhile, Jeff Rense has posted the long, detailed, written testimony of a witness at the concert, 28-year-old Kymberley Suchomel. Here is a brief excerpt: “We are all hanging out on this sheet [at the concert], dancing our booties off, enjoying ourselves so much that we took off our boots to get even more comfortable…the first volley of gunfire was released. It was a shorter volley than any of the others [that followed]…So, as we are running, we approach this fence where men are throwing women over, and we ran up to it as they had knocked It down, so we were able to get out…”

“But the gunfire wasn’t stopping this whole time. It wasn’t ceasing. It wasn’t slowing down. And It was directly behind us, following us. Bullets were coming from every direction. Behind us, in front of us, to the side of us. But I know, I just know, that there was someone chasing us. The entire time I felt this way. The farther we got from the venue, the closer the gunfire got. I kept looking back expecting to see the gunmen- and I say MEN because there was more than one person. There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one…”

Kymberley Suchomel and her group did finally escape and get home safely. Then…

As reports, “About a week after surviving the mass shooting at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas, Kymberley Suchomel has died.”

“Suchomel, 28, who was not injured during last week’s shooting, died early Monday at her Apple Valley home, according to her grandmother, Julie Norton, the co-founder of the High Desert Phoenix Foundation.”

“Norton found Suchomel just after 8:30 a.m. when she arrived to care for her 3-year-old great-granddaughter, Scarlett. She believes Suchomel may have died in her sleep after her husband, Mike, left for work at 4:30 a.m.”

“’Kymberley had epilepsy and she’s always been prone to seizures — she told her friend that she recently had three focal seizures,’ Norton told the Daily Press. ‘I believe the stress from the shooting took her life’.”

Embedded below is a video from a man who states he has military weapons experience, and knows about wounds from high-powered weapons. He views the Vegas shooting as rife with fraud on several levels. Some people will interpret his analysis to mean no one died and it was all a hoax, and others will draw the conclusion that people did die, but there were multiple shooters. I repeat what I wrote in a previous articlethe Vegas event could be both a fraud and real:

People did die. And others, planted in the concert crowd, were faking wounds. If researchers on both sides of this issue start arguing with each other on the basis of “all-fake” or “all-real,” the truth will suffer. And mainstream news can cherry-pick the most “absurd conspiracy theories,” highlight them, and thereby paint all independent analyses with same broad brush.


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44 comments on “Vegas security guard cancels interviews, then goes missing; concert witness escapes shooting uninjured, testifies there were multiple shooters, then dies at home

  1. From Quebec says:

    Las Vegas sheriff running scared as narrative crumbles

  2. elliottjab says:

    Again – obits? Funerals/burials/cremations/services of any stripe?

    Gone missing & dead – post witnesses.

    BLM – Nevada style…

    ….then Burns, Oregon style…

    The overly ‘strange’ – to say the least – Cali fires… Tesla style.

    DARPA style.

    Hollywood – Hollyweed style…

    NFL = NOTED F**KN serviceable

    CONGRESS – almost all – on supplier verified drugs – & they only pay $600 a year – no matter what they use…

    Very fraid, thin strings…

    • Larry says:

      “The overly ‘strange’ – to say the least – Cali fires… Tesla style”

      Somebody please, pop the hoods of the vehicles that were destroyed in the California fires, and have a look-see …my guess is that at least a few of the engine blocks have turned to dust per the Tesla type weaponry that is being hypothesized as the real cause for the fires.

  3. elliottjab says:


  4. elliottjab says:

    How does this ‘intuitive’ word program come up with *servicable* from ‘LOSERS’…???

  5. Abe says:

    Either Compos is compost, or he never existed in the first place. I seen a video today where Compos only existed in name only. No address, no phone number. I tend to think he’s fake. Even Mr. MaGoo could get more than one hit out of 100.

    I agree with the guy in on all points except all the workers that knew Paddock and Marilou all said they’ve never seen either have a drink of any kind of alcohol.

  6. Sam Earle says:

    If Compos was shot in the leg, how is it that he’s up and around? Wouldn’t he be in a wheelchair at the very least?

  7. Theodore says:

    Fleshing out my theory on there being multiple shooters — both human and human-operated drones carrying long rifles…

    • Theodore says:

      Night Vision… Operations are conducted at night, and, the ‘operators’ — whose mission it is to kill — wear night vision goggles when they’re doing the killing. And that means the drones have night vision cameras, too…


      COLOR NIGHT VISION /watch?v=8bTgG2Ft4xQ

    • localherog2 says:

      Please provide actual proof of a real first shooter before imagining a second one… or a third one… or a fourth. I’ve yet to see a shred of proof that a single person was hit by gunfire (and, yes, I’ve seen that ludicrous, hokey Liveleaks video with conspicuously-absent entry/exit wounds and phony-looking transparent, bright red “blood”).

  8. Don Savage says:

    -Has anyone noticed that in all videos there were zero muzzle blast coming from the Mandalay’s 32nd floor broken windows. You could clearly see muzzle blast coming from the 3rd floor balcony. -I haven’t heard any reports about how many people were killed and injured from gun shot versus how many people were killed and injured from the stampede that ensued from the gun fire. My guess would be that 1/3 from gun fire and 3/4 from the stampede.
    -They have not a found any reason for Mr. Stephen Paddock shooting into the concert goers because he had no reason to shoot anybody. I think he was killed before the first shot was fired into the crowd.
    -I understand the FBI was on the verge of being busted for another Fast & Furious gun running program, and Mr. Stephen Paddock being a main player had much damming evidence on them. They needed to shut him up.

  9. Tim says:

    searching through the video linkages, for the iraqi vet, Fratur Oculus, he links to a philosophy vid, Spinoza and Schopenhauer
    discussion of creation/creativity in mind. /watch?v=8mh9YMb7HjY

    ~12:35 Schopenhauer:
    ‘your understanding of the world or your perception of the world is your own creation’

    “The world is my representation.”

    And more, getting to denial (of will to life)

    And so it is no wonder that creativity is infinite. And changeable.

  10. fauxscienceslayer says:

    White House Warned Week Before Harvest….Timothy Bates surrendered….

    When posted on Oct 9, this article had imbed of local FOX TV footage of arrest of machinist Scott Edmisten and his fully automatic arsenal, since scrubbed, a few stills posted.

  11. flyinggabriel says:

    “And mainstream news can cherry-pick the most “absurd conspiracy theories,” highlight them …”

    Probably the most ‘absurd’ are the ones promoted by their own paid astroturfers.

  12. Theodore says:

    Tropicana hotel

    Take a look at this friggin’ motley crew… and that agent in yellow pointing his long gun at people…

    SWAT team enters Tropicana after Las Vegas Strip shooting /watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM

    following up of the above,… here’s some fun… go to the 1m26s mark… /watch?v=Lno7xWPN1xw

  13. From Quebec says:

    Comes as the official timeline collapses

  14. CARRIE SNOW says:

    So what? MSM has to broad-stroke it anyway. Anyone willing to spend their time wading through this shit, trying to find the truth, shouldn’t have to be so afraid of being wrong, every step of the way. The truth has a learning curve. 🙂

  15. From Quebec says:

    WOW! Here is this guy again: Scott J Binsack. Remember him, he is the guy that analyzed in slow motion the CNN video and proved that the Shooting did not come first from the Mandaly hotel. I have posted that video before on another article on your site, Jon.

    Well, here is again today, with another video and bringing in new powerful ,facts . Amazing video, this guy facinates me. He is very interesting. Must watch:


    The link might not work, so just copy the TITLE and you will find it on youtube.

  16. vic says:

    malanday has 3309 rooms. that’s right, well over three thousand.

    please, msm, stop manipulating me.

    you try to tell me there was only one security guard around on a sunday night at las vegas hotel/casino on the strip?

    bonus question: how many cctv cameras are there to cover 3309 rooms, hallways, exits, garages, roofs, driveways and gamblers counting cards?

    and none of these just happened recorded paddock.

  17. localherog2 says:

    My guess is Jesus Campos doesn’t even exist except in the fevered imagination of some Crisis Cast or Crowds On Demand scriptwriter. This is as close as you’ll get to finding Campos… /watch?v=cB2S6zyhPY8

    It was fake. 100% of it.


    • localherog2 says:

      You’ll have to copy and paste the link and then remove the gap between and the forward slash.

      • From Quebec says:

        This guy Scott Binsack, again today. So much more information.

        Powerful video must see till the very end,

        10/15/2017 Tonight’s private MFA Underground show with MFA – March For America Founder/CEO “Scott J Binsack”… “THE VEGAS MASSACRE MOTIVE EXPOSED – FOLLOW THE MONEY”


        • Theodore says:



          “Isreal Mossad, CIA, FBI, DHS, the Saudi’s — with key players: Sheldon Aderson, James Murren, Michael Chertoff, Heather Murren, Michael Hayden and George Soros. Said individuals are believed to have known of Stephen Paddock’s CIA and FBI gun Running activities and hijacked his arms sale as an opportunity to carry out the Oct 1st Las ‘Vegas Harvest Fest Massacre’ and label Paddock as the Lone Wolf Gunman…”

          I guess the motive would be to be able to benefit from future big corp profits to be made from ‘surveillance 2.0’ technology deployments — by speeding up the deployment of said ‘surveillance 2.0’ technology — that such an incident would surely precipitate.

          Secondarily, I guess this would also imply that Stephen Paddock’s was an agent of the CIA’s and/or FBI’s Bad Apple Division. Also, if so, who was he selling (non-serial-numbered) long guns (and ammo) to? MS-13? ISIS? Mexican Drug Cartel operatives? Side bar: were those long guns ‘Proudly Made in the U.S.A.’?

          Ya gotta love a good old American/International crime story.

  18. localherog2 says:

    Where are the thousands of spent shell casings? Where are the people hit? Where’s the blood from the entry/exit wounds? Where are all the bodies? Where’s the carnage? Where are the HAZMAT clean-up crews? Where are the hundreds of ambulances needed for such a huge bloodbath? Where are the wounded screaming in pain? Where are the shredded limbs, skulls blown apart, and entrails ripped out by 5.56mm rounds traveling at 2000+ fps? Have you ever seen a real wound from a 5.56mm rifle? Just Google “5.56 wounds” and be prepared to lose your lunch. It’s horrific to say the least. I haven’t seen a single convincing pic or video (and, yes, I’ve seen that ludicrous, hokey Liveleaks video with conspicuously-absent entry/exit wounds and phony-looking transparent, bright red “blood”). PLEASE show me just ONE(!) and then, perhaps, we can discuss dozens of others dead and hundreds more injured. What really blows my mind though is that they are actually setting “traps” for truthers; little rabbit holes for them to take to keep them distracted from the truth. Was it the 32nd floor or the 4th floor; was there someone in the crowd predicting it would happen 45 mins before the shooting; were there multiple shooters??? It’s all over Youtube. Bottom line: They faked a shooting, then sprinkled shiny objects all around to suck in and distract the alternative media – keeping them from figuring out the truth – while our mainstream media fed the rest of the world the lie. This world is a stage (a Satanic stage I might add). Maybe some will be able to see through the lies built on lies but it’s not looking good.

    • Lori says:

      Talk to my friends who were at the concert. IT HAPPENED. They are in counseling, unable to recover from the trauma of it all. This shooting was not fake. Do I think there are details that are being kept quiet? Absolutely. But the actual shooting happened.

  19. localherog2 says:

    […] Read that written testimony from Suchomel…

    “the first volley of gunfire was released. It was a shorter volley”

    “It wasn’t ceasing.”

    Does that sound like the testimony of a 28 year old girl? As the father of a 30 year old daughter it sure doesn’t.

    And the “testimony” is trying WAY TOO HARD (“But I know, I just know”; “and I say MEN because there was more than one person”; “100% more than one…”) to bolster the multiple shooter conspiracy theory. Why is that? Because they WANT people to believe that storyline. And, to top it all off, they “kill” their little fake witness to really cement it in that she knew something so dangerous (there were multiple shooters) that she had to be silenced at all costs. Golly-gee-whiz, it sounds just like a B-movie script. Well, yeah, because it is.

    It also does one more thing: it tells all of the other crisis actors (who have no idea if this “witness” is real or fake) to keep their mouths shut or they might be rubbed out too. It’s psyop 101.

    The LV shooting is 100% stagecraft. Nobody died and nobody was injured (unless entirely accidental).

  20. Jon

    I have yet to see ANY compelling evidence (i.e, that which isn’t “eyewitness” hearsay or pictorial views that don’t actually validate the concert in question) that proves

    a) the concert took place at all

    b) there was a shooting “as advertised”

    If you or anyone else has anything CONCRETE, please attach it to this comment. Discussing the Vegas rort any further is insulting the intelligence of the sane!!!


    • truth1 says:

      I’m with you Ozzie. No real evidence of said event.

      • CPP says:

        In a comment on the following article, Ozzie stated that circumstantial evidence is not evidence. And above he appears to refer to eyewitness testimony as “hearsay”. Both of these characterizations are patently false.

        Joe is in his house alone. Bob is video-recorded entering the house, then leaving the house. Jill then enters the house and finds Joe murdered. No one actually sees Bob kill Joe and no tangible evidence is found directly linking Bob to the murder (DNA, fingerprints, Joe’s blood on Bob’s clothes). The evidence against him is circumstantial only, but is strong enough evidence to consider him the prime suspect.

        And hearsay refers to second hand accounts. Direct eye-witness testimony is not hearsay.

        Ozzie then asks for “concrete” evidence not only that a shooting occurred but that the concert took place at all (a multi-day, multi-artist, annually recurring event no less) and expects to be taken seriously, given his demonstrated understanding of how to assess evidence. Who’s insulting whose intelligence?

        And in his earlier comment he states that he found no evidence the concert was promoted. Apparently he didn’t look very hard:

        Here are a couple examples of promotional pages for the 2017 Route 91 Harvest Festival:

        Here are the same pages at pre-event dates via the Wayback Machine:

        June 09, 2017

        Sept. 09, 2017

        Those like yourself are falling for an agenda to cause a dissociation from reality in truth-seeking segments of the populace — to send them over the deep end, in other words. Earth is flat, all celebrities are Illuminati emissaries, all terror-type events are whole-cloth “fake”, wherein any victims or witnesses are also “fake” (i.e. in on it). Any family, friends and associates who act as though said victims and witnesses are real are also in on the ever-expanding conspiracy in which everyone but your mother is a crisis actor. Add in the notion in this case that an annual, multi-day concert might well have been a hoax, and pretend it plausible that a bunch of country music performers and all their people are also in on the big bamboozle. Quite a trick, that.

        You might as well just go all-in: Las Vegas doesn’t actually exist. It’s just an artificial mirage in the desert generated by hologram technology invented by Nicola Tesla’s secret twin sister when she was six years old. When you visit “Vegas” and approach the hologram, you traverse an invisible jump gate that takes you to Neptune. That’s where “Vegas” is. What happens there stays there because nobody ever leaves. The Neptunians just send clones back to Earth. Yes, Carrot Top, Celine Dion and Cirque du Soleil are Neptunian…so are most magicians. It all makes sense.

        • truth1 says:

          Are you Jim Carrey? Robin Williams is dead so I’m ruling that out, but you’re one he11 of a comedian. I’m still laughing. Which branch of government do you work for? I guess it hardly matters as they are all alike.

          I can’t help but notice that you are avoiding admitting the signs and symptoms that should be everywhere in the video clips I have seen, not only, during but some examining after. No bullet hole marks. Dealy Plaza in Dallas had bullet marks embedded in concrete. The kitchen RFK was in, looked like swiss cheese for all the bullet in the walls and doors. But not one in the outdoor arena of Lost Vegas. I saw no blood anywhere. I did not see that many people, either. I saw heard of many contradictions.

          Well, CCCP, I think you should take a course in false flag psyops 101. Avoid Universities and take some logic courses, too. I got a double major from the College of Hard Knocks. It was the best degree I ever got. Let me guess, you had vaccines when you were young. I understand. Never trust government or the Media or the vague Status Quo.

          Ozzie graduated with honors in Logic and Evidence 101. You ought to ask him if he’d be willing to tutor you. Look, you got no where to go but up.

          • flyinggabriel says:

            God help us – if you think there exists no evidence that a concert even took place you didn’t get there with logic and evidence – no matter how double major your head got knocked. You’ve just joined the “one-or-the-other” brigade of monochrome thinkers that the perpetrators and narrative writers simply adore. And trotting out the old “you must be from the government” line to serve up amidst laboured attempts at subtle ad hominem insults, come on – so hackneyed you should be embarrassed.

          • truth1 says:

            Never said a concert did not take place, but that a masacre took place? that I dispute! Evidence Please, to refute my assertion?

          • flyinggabriel says:

            No, I retract, not even god can do this. Just read the opening comment by ozzie – linger on point “a)” – then read your 1st reply – linger on that. Repeat until penny drops.
            If you want to modify your gushy endorsements a week later, talk to the hand mate.

          • truth1 says:

            I notice that you’re quite upset with me, you have no word or message For Ozzie ti answer. It would seem your only goal is to find fault with anything I say. I don’t waste too much time with shills. you got got your axe to grind. Carry on for all I care.

        • truth1 says:

          Eye witness testimoney can be false when not accompanied by the physical evidence that should accompany it. For example, someone says Joe Smith was shot and killed in this spot 3 minutes ago and there is no Joe Smith laying there nor any blood, either. Many crimes include a variety of evidence and should the sum of evidence have contradictions, then you have problems. Whether Ozzie’s every point was right or not, most were and that the concert promoted, if so, is only 1 error. Where are the bullets, blood, etc. How about some real people’s names who died or were wounded and treated? Sorry CCCP but you only refuted one thing, leaving the bigger argument in tact. The event was a fake as a whole. Nighty night!

          • Jim Carrey’s heavily vaccinated, time-traveling Soviet twin and FCC censor says:

            I expose basic errors in Ozzie’s characterization of evidence types and, for this case, provide readily available evidence he implies doesn’t exist, and you tell me to study logic and evidence under him. You, O humbly named one, have nowhere to go but down to an altitude with adequate oxygen. But given your slightly more sober second reply, after flyinggabriel smacked you, I’ll take apart some more.

            “Never said a concert did not take place.” Well, flyinggabriel already rather amusingly refuted this claim. In other words, you did effectively say so by simply agreeing with Ozzie that there is “no real evidence of said event” when Ozzie was referring both to the concert and shooting. That’s the only reasonable conclusion the reader can come to without further specificity.

            Eyewitness testimony is second tier to physical evidence generally, sure, but that’s when you have direct access to the physical evidence and control of the crime scene (or can trust those who do). Which, here, for us, needless to say, is far from the case.

            “should the sum of evidence have contradictions”…Right, you and others pushing “nobody died/was wounded” theories with certainty after these events ought to consider the sum of evidence. Instead, you hone in on what you think is evidence of fakery and then dismiss anything that would be evidence of a real attack as non-evidence. Contrary accounts from those who claim to be survivors are automatically thrown out, not because of objectively obvious crisis acting, but because they have to be lying to fit your theory. You’ve made a decision that it was a total fake, but this is a logical leap beyond what you can be certain of given your lack of direct access to an uncompromised crime scene and the totality of evidence.

            As Jon has stated, “know what you don’t know.” And as he tried to cram through your skull, just because two scenarios appear to contradict doesn’t mean it can’t be both. Some seeming contradictions are not mutually exclusive, true contradictions. Others are. Understand the difference. For example, fakery/staging/acting filmed along with a real attack — not mutually exclusive; only one lone shooter in one location vs. multiple shooters in different locations — mutually exclusive. Remember that drills are often vectors for real attacks, as on 9/11/2001 and 7/7/2005 (I think I’ve graduated beyond level 101 in false flag psyops, thank you).

            “Whether Ozzie’s every point was right or not, most were”…No, he made two basic claims, that there was no evidence he deemed compelling to meet his standard of proof a) that the concert took place and b) that there was a shooting. The earlier statement that he hadn’t seen evidence of promotion can be nested in the first claim. As it is apparent there was promotion, the whole of claim “a” is shown to be that much more nonsensical. If you think the concert in question did occur, then you are already dismissing half of Ozzie’s statement.

            As to what Ozzie’s personal standard of proof would be for either a) or b), this cannot objectively be deemed right or wrong, but could be judged reasonable or not. He does not make any points that are “right”, and I don’t find his assessment to be reasonable, especially that we must meet his undefined standard of proof that anything but a stageplay happened at all if we are to continue discussing the case; all the more so given that he appears to have made little effort to look for the evidence he demands.

            I’m not sure what you mean by “real people’s names”… Names of those officially killed were released, and some of those injured were interviewed, with names, etc. What is it that would allow you to definitively distinguish between them being genuine or people with fake identities? It just sounds like more begging the question — they’re assumed to be fake to match your total-fake theory.

            In an earlier comment I made under Jon’s “Vegas shooting: real vs. fake” article I warned of the fake-event narrative being pushed and spread and what that would lead to:

            “Care is especially important here because the effort to uncover and expose the truth of these events is poisoned by the “it’s fake, nobody died, they’re all actors” narrative that has come to be at-the-ready following any of these attacks. It’s a great way to tarnish those questioning the official versions as callous, insensitive, paranoid-delusional, and generally disgusting.”

            Lo and behold, look at what’s been happening:

            (Just do a search for “vegas conspiracy theorists” and most of the top results are articles about angry trolls calling the victims/survivors actors and going after them)

            These are vile, useful idiots going and doing a big favor to those trying to cover up the reality of what happened in Vegas (and other events) and the who and why behind it. Tarnish, tarnish, tarnish the truth seekers and send people back into the waiting hands of Big Brother MSM. That’s why I believe professional disinfo operatives have been rabidly pushing fake-event / crisis actor narratives online.

            I also wondered in that earlier comment whether a primary objective of Sandy Hook was to get the ball rolling on the “fake/hoax event” idea and then build that meme over time until you have “fake event” hysteria overtaking and discrediting the truth community / independent media.

            Well wouldn’t you know, Newsweek has a version of the harassment story ( that actually mentions that “Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones called the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting…a ‘hoax'” and uses this as context for the current social media trolling of Vegas survivors/family, adding that “The reach of well-known conspiracy theorists like Jones is massive…” Similarly, this version from Salon ( also name-drops Jones at the end with an external link, after mentioning previous “online abusers” following the Sandy Hook and Pulse nightclub events.

            So in the media the current fakery-possessed trolls are traced back to Sandy Hook skeptics and associated with Alex Jones, and all of the above are associated with “conspiracy theorists” in general (i.e. those questioning/rejecting official versions). That’s how the game is played.

            And yet the official story continues to unravel…


          • truth1 says:

            I will address your 1st contention here. I know you are not here for honest discussion so the rest has no incentive for me.
            Eye Witnesses. Indeed, one or two witnesses might not get all details the same. But assuming they agree on the most important point in a case. Physical evidence is nice if you can get it. But the more witnesses you have, the more likely you will get a clear consistent picture. I will cite the Titanic sinking and the JFK murder for examples. Many things were related by survivors of the Titanic. Some seemed to contradict others, but what really happened was that different witnesses related the Titanic’s state at different times. One say the back end of the Titanic in the air. Another said the back end had broken off and was all that was left and then it went down, too. Both things happened. They were both right but addressing the different stages of the Titanic in its break up and sinking.

            Many related the same things in the JFK hit. 50 witnesses on one point. That is uncontestable. Many say they saw/heard a shot from the grassy knoll. That does not mean other shots did not come from other areas. but that atleast 1 came from the knoll seems trustworhty to me. Many reported that the limo slowed down to a crawl near that knoll or stopped. Some think a rolling stop is a stop and some thinks its a crawl. We’re splitting hairs for definition. That’s all!

            that you can even dispute the value of multiple witnesses speaks volumes about you object that I would not give the time of day. Sorry troll. Truth1 out! Hey, what took ya so long to respond?

          • flyinggabriel says:

            Personally I think the guy deserves a fecking medal for replying at all.

            You made it worth it by basically coming full circle and endorsing the very point he was making. Now you know what the back of your head looks like.

  21. Peter says:

    Jon… hum, I got a question for you. I was looking back at the photo of the “dead shooter” to call someones attention to the “lack of spent bullet/shell casing on the floor, i.e. a few dozen shells to wound 500+ & kill 58 people. The man was military so I was kind of laughing that idea this guy shot & killed 2 people plus wounded 20 people for EVERY bullet fired. Then I NOTICED THAT IN THE PHOTO THE MACHINE GUN IS OVER THE DEAD MAN’S LEG! opps staged… do you know of any footage or images that show the dead man on the floor “BEFORE THAT MACHINE GUN WAS PUT THERE? Just checking, but like you I do investigative journalism for myself, Photo Editor of 6 newspapers for 9 yrs. I just kind of BLINKED HARD at what I had over looked… Thanks & KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

  22. Las Vegas looking a lot like a totally staged FF event. See It’s saying sound system used for gun fire !!! That would explain the ‘stereo’ sound. Maybe even Quadrophonic® sound considering the back of house PA speakers. Also Debbie Lusignan (The Sane Progressive) has a lot of stuff in here…

    Watch till the end of that… it seems that Vegas insiders Jim Murren, chair man and CEO of MGM Resorts International (and also on board of Homeland Security) did a lot of stock dumping before the Vegas event. And guess who shorted the Mandalay stock right before the event? George Soros.

  23. Aron says:

    I’ve wavered back and forth on this, but I feel like I’ve had an epiphany. So much of what has been presented in the media, on Youtube, LiveLeaks looks staged, faked, a put on. Right? I assume most critically thinking people would agree with this. However, the co-called authorities try their damnedest to cast a story that the average person will absorb without critical thought and will repeat at the water cooler with coworkers. Hurrah.

    You’ve got Jesus Campos being handled and baby-walked through the fake interview with Ellen. It is so freaking obvious Campos’s narrative has been scripted. So, Campos’s story is a lie.

    Supposedly people’s cell phones have been wiped clean by the FBI. Why? Would the evidence be so obvious to the average person to cast doubt on their being any real shooting?

    Perhaps people were killed by some other means that we are not being told about and if that did happen, of course my heart goes out to the victims and families.

    I get what Jon is saying about story A versus story B dichotomies, but as stated, I have seen no credible evidence of a real shooting and nothing but lies coming from the so-called authorities.

    So, what the hell is this all about then? Many have provided reasons that could be plausible but my epiphany is that I sense their strategy is to keep us all occupied with unimportant events and divert our attention away from the real issues like taking away our freedoms, picking our pockets, destroying the individual, destroying the family unit, cultural and intellectual debasement, and on, and on, and on. Time to focus more on important matters than the diversions.


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