CDC “Spider” Scientists attack the CDC, blow the lid off

CDC “Spider” Scientists attack the CDC, blow the lid off

They write a letter to the CDC chief of staff

And I write a letter to them

by Jon Rappoport

January 15, 2017

(Update: for Part-2, click here)

There is a group of anonymous scientists at the US Centers for Disease Control—they call themselves the Spider Group—Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research. They have penned a letter to the CDC’s chief of staff, Carmen S. Villar:

Here is the explosive accusation they make:

“We are a group of scientists at CDC that are very concerned about the current state of ethics at our agency. It appears that our mission is being influenced and shaped by outside parties and rogue interests. It seems that our mission and Congressional intent for our agency is being circumvented by some of our leaders. What concerns us most, is that it is becoming the norm and not the rare exception.”

“Some senior management officials at CDC are clearly aware and even condone these behaviors. Others see it and turn the other way. Some staff are intimidated and pressed to do things they know are not right.”

“We have representatives from across the agency that witness this unacceptable behavior. It occurs at all levels and in all of our respective units. These questionable and unethical practices threaten to undermine our credibility and reputation as a trusted leader in public health.”

I have written at length about another whistleblower at the CDC, William Thompson, a long-time researcher who, in August of 2014, confessed in writing to massive fraud (archive here). He admitted that, in a study on the safety of the MMR vaccine, he and his colleagues literally threw vital sheets of data into a garbage can. The study then gave a free pass to the vaccine, claiming it had no connection to autism—when in fact it did. Thompson is the subject of the film, Vaxxed (trailer).

Now with this letter, we see that other scientists at the CDC are blowing the lid off internal corruption at their Agency.

If, in fact, President-elect Trump gives the green light for an independent investigation of the CDC, as press outlets are now reporting, and if he appoints Robert Kennedy Jr. to head up that panel, as Kennedy claims, we are going to see a large number of hidden facts emerge from the secretive halls of the CDC.

Because this Spider Group is anonymous, I wanted to make sure their letter is real. I contacted reporter Carey Gillam (twitter), who has been covering the story. I received this reply: “I was able to authenticate the letter by contacting CDC’s public affairs office and asking them directly about it after I received it from internal CDC sources.”

You can read the full Spider Group’s letter here at US Right To Know. (More on the letter by Carey Gillam here.)

And now I write a letter to them, so they can deepen their investigation.

Dear Spider Group:

I commend you on making an important start. You’re on the right road. As a reporter who has covered the CDC for many years, I offer you three suggestions. This short list is by no means exhaustive. I’m just pointing to a few areas where your own research will yield very rich and fertile results.


Let me take you back to the late summer of 2009, and the Swine Flu epidemic, which was hyped to the sky by the CDC. The Agency was calling for all Americans to take the Swine Flu vaccine. Remember?

The problem was, the CDC was concealing a scandal.

At the time, star CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, was working on a Swine Flu story. She discovered that the CDC had secretly stopped counting cases of the illness—while, of course, continuing to warn Americans about its unchecked spread.

The CDC’s main job is counting cases and reporting the numbers.

What was the Agency up to?

Here is an excerpt from my 2014 interview with Sharyl Attkisson:

Rappoport: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

Attkisson: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it and, in the end, no broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

—end of interview excerpt—

It was routine for doctors all over America to send blood samples from patients they’d diagnosed with Swine Flu, or the “most likely” Swine Flu patients, to labs for testing. And overwhelmingly, those samples were coming back with the result: not Swine Flu, not any kind of flu.

That was the big secret. That’s what the CDC was hiding. That’s why they stopped reporting Swine Flu case numbers. That’s what Attkisson had discovered. That’s why she was shut down.

But it gets even worse.

Because about three weeks after Attkisson’s findings were published on the CBS News website, the CDC, obviously in a panic, decided to double down. If one lie is exposed, tell an even bigger one. A much bigger one.

Here, from a November 12, 2009, WebMD article is the CDC’s response: “Shockingly, 14 million to 34 million U.S. residents — the CDC’s best guess is 22 million — came down with H1N1 swine flu by Oct. 17 [2009].” (“22 million cases of Swine Flu in US,” by Daniel J. DeNoon).

Are your eyeballs popping? They should be.

In the summer of 2009, the CDC secretly stops counting Swine Flu cases in America, because the overwhelming percentage of lab tests from likely Swine Flu patients shows no sign of Swine Flu or any other kind of flu.

There is no Swine Flu epidemic.

Then, the CDC estimates there are 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US.


If you wanted to buy a product, and the main source of research on the product was the company selling it, would you automatically assume the product was safe and effective?

But you see, that’s the just the beginning of the problem. Suppose the company’s research was cited thousands of times in the press, as the authoritative standard of proof—and anyone who disputed that research was labeled a conspiracy theorist and a quack and a danger to the community and an anti-science lunatic.

Would you begin to suspect the company had some awesome media connections? Would you suspect some very powerful people were backing the company?

This is exactly the situation that exists at the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Read these two quotes:

“The government’s Vaccine for Children Program (a CDC organization) purchases vaccines for about 50 percent of children in the U.S.” (The Atlantic, February 10, 2015)

“The CDC currently spends over $4 billion purchasing vaccines [annually] from drug makers…” (Health Impact News, October 24, 2016)

However, the CDC is also the gold standard for research on the safety and efficacy of vaccines. It turns out an unending stream of studies on these subjects. And the results of those studies are dutifully reported in the mainstream press.

Do you think, under any circumstances, the CDC would publish data showing vaccines are ineffective and dangerous? They’d be cutting their own throats.

“Well, we spend $4 billion a year buying vaccines from drug companies, but guess what? These vaccines are often dangerous…”

Every time you read about a CDC study on vaccines, keep this obvious (and clearly illegal) conflict of interest in mind.


In December of 2005, the British Medical Journal (online) published a shocking report by Peter Doshi, which created tremors through the halls of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), where “the experts” used to tell the press that 36,000 people in the US die every year from the flu.

Here is a quote from Doshi’s report, “Are US flu death figures more PR than science?” (BMJ 2005; 331:1412):

“[According to CDC statistics], ‘influenza and pneumonia’ took 62,034 lives in 2001—61,777 of which were attributable to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the flu virus positively identified.”


You see, the CDC has created one overall category that combines both flu and pneumonia deaths. Why do they do this? Because they disingenuously assume that the pneumonia deaths are complications stemming from the flu.

This is an absurd assumption. Pneumonia has a number of causes.

But even worse, in all the flu and pneumonia deaths, only 18 revealed the presence of an influenza virus.

Therefore, the CDC could not say, with assurance, that more than 18 people died of influenza in 2001. Not 36,000 deaths. 18 deaths.

Doshi continued his assessment of published CDC flu-death statistics: “Between 1979 and 2001, [CDC] data show an average of 1348 [flu] deaths per year (range 257 to 3006).” These figures refer to flu separated out from pneumonia.

This death toll is obviously far lower than the parroted 36,000 figure.

However, when you add the sensible condition that lab tests have to actually find the flu virus in patients, the numbers of flu deaths plummet even further.

In other words, it’s all promotion and hype.

“Well, uh, we say that 36,000 people die from the flu every year in the US. But actually, it’s closer to 20. However, we can’t admit that, because if we did, we’d be exposing our gigantic psyop. The whole campaign to scare people into getting a flu shot would have about the same effect as warning people to carry iron umbrellas, in case toasters fall out of upper-story windows…and, by the way, we’d be put in prison for fraud.”

The CDC must turn out a steady stream of outrageous lies about the need for vaccines. If they didn’t, they’d have no way to justify the billions of dollars they spend every year buying the vaccines from drug companies.

So, Spider Group, don’t stop now. Deepen your probe. Become true heroes for honest research, expose the deep roots of corruption in your Agency, and do the right thing for the American people you’re sworn to serve.

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at or OutsideTheRealityMachine.

77 comments on “CDC “Spider” Scientists attack the CDC, blow the lid off

  1. marlene says:

    When the CDC does count the cases, who’s feeding them the numbers?

    • being1111 says:

      I’d like to know that myself. As once a bi-lingual interpreter I have never seen a patient being tested for what specific “flu” they have been “diagnosed” (without testing)’

      We all experience this…… when you go or take your child to the doctor with fever and cold and they “see” no infection and do not test you for infection either… but they conclude that ‘ it must be a virus because there is a flu virus going around… come back if you get worse and we’ll give you antibiotics then, because then it must be bacterial (again with no testing)”…

      If docs see no bacterial “signs” they auto-pilot it a “virus.” So how COULD there be any numbers???

      • binra says:

        Medical Mafia is mind control. The narrative of evil germs and the protection racket that identifies the symptoms as the disease and promises to eradicate them, burn or poison them, or block, suppress and manage them, is fear that evil ‘out there’ will ‘get you’ unless you do as fear dictates.
        The props change – but the game is the same. The OTHERING of evil is the first false cause.

        Anything rejected and denied, feared or hidden, ran from or masked over, is as actively seeking to find reintegration – as the mind is actively set in denial.

        The collective wish to protect our fears from exposure is milked or marketed by opportunists who may believe they are helping, but the propagation and cultivation of such fear by power-manipulators who have forgotten what help is.

        Put it the other way around: the wish that something be true is blind to truth and distorts all else to reinforce and support or protect the wish … as power over truth or … lie.

  2. Eliza Ayres says:

    The disclosures just keep happening… breath!

  3. Dawn Vierra says:

    This is really good news. Light continues to shine in all those dark places. If it’s happening at the CDC it’s happening everywhere. If you have anything to hide it won’t stay that way for long

    • stock says:

      Indeed, keep on exposing this stuff. I can’t help but notice that many of these agencies that have gotten so awful are run by minorities appointed recently. I guess they figure it is time to “get theirs” while also “you know how it works” is considered acceptable.

  4. A nine part series on the vaccines…over 18 hrs of fact….

    Part one: Dr Andrew Wakefield

    • arcadia11 says:

      thanks much for the link.

    • AnotherLover says:

      Thanks. This is a brand new video, huh? I’m watching it now 🙂

    • Joy says:

      I have been watching this series for six nights now, and the content is mind-blowing, including in-depth interviews with the likes of John F. Kennedy, Jr., and Dr. Booker, the source of all of the data and information from Dr. Thompson at the CDC in the movie, Vaxxed! They had to air their first episode using a benefactor’s server, because unknown sources were attacking their site, resulting in “denial of service.” But they are determined!

      My former limits of incredulity have been stretched beyond recognition, as fact upon fact reveals how purposeful and evil Big Pharma and the CDC, as well as collusion at all levels of government, are in causing tragedy in so many innocent children’s and people’s lives. I am now more than suspecting that their motives go way beyond mere profits, no matter how astronomical. They are out to kill and maim the American public and the world!

      • Surprising how efficiently, ethyl mercury crosses the blood-brain barrier. This is the whole linchpin of science *cough, choke*…

        • *whoops…pushed the wrong button.*

          …linch-pin of this science.
          The quickening accumulation of mercury within the brains of all of the vaccined. Is astounding. It is beyond belief how much accumulates and still we are able to think. And it never leaves.

          An important date was mentioned, 1989, “the gateway date”….that is very important.

          The first thing I would like to see in the Trump/Kennedy collaborative would the repeal of the…vicious ‘Act’ that protects psychopaths. The title of this act is so opposite to what it expresses. And does not serve an electorate.

          “National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act” …as if it cares!

          …by unleashing the lawyers; the dogs of war, who would shred the profits of this destructive and evil corporate system. And have enough tooth in this process to put the criminals in jail…so if you are a scientist. It’s time to come to Jesus, time to repent.
          Force them to be accountable for their mistakes. An increase in all corporate fines, appropriate to their/for their criminality. And those directly involved, including pocket scientists be put in jail as the criminals that they are.

          The plunging into bankrupcy of those pharmaceutical corporate entities, like the dying of a McDonalds Corp or Monsanto having to merge with a larger world power, slipping from its position of evil. But in the end causing financial ruin to those who give shelter to these evil and dark corporations. Bayer in the end will pay for this unholy alliance, with a corpration like Monsanto.

          And the rise of corporations that revel in ethical products. And fairness of employment.
          The repealing of personhood for a corporation, which is in truth, in the service of mankind. Not in dominance of it. A corporation is not equal to one single child.

          • binra says:

            I was watching a video on artificial Light by Alexander Wunsch in which the informational qualities of mercury lighting (Fleurescent tubes and also used in the so called eco or energy saving bulbs) resonates with mercury just under the skin – which is where the body attempts to put it to lesser toxic effects – so as to defeat the body in its purpose and aggravate the toxicity of mercury in our body.
            Was probably the link.

            The good news of uncovering the pHarma racket is the releasing of allegiance to its premise and the opening to the nature of life in a far greater perspective.

            Regardless of whether an evil mastermind intends pharming sickness and death for profit, global power or simply as a blood sacrifice to a false god, I see that negative destructive synergies that operate together just as do positive synergies. The parasitic influence comes to mind – but of course operates what we take AS our mind. Science was hijacked a long way back – and more invisibly so because it operates under the mask of intelligence, neutrality and rigorous dedication to truth. But a true spirit of enquiry learns from its results.

            Fear works a destructive agenda – or rather unowned and denied fears operate a hidden destructive agenda. Fear pays trust to that which promises to protect it – and cannot recognize when it is deceived. Re-educating ourselves so as to grow a more aligned and true foundation instead of allowing hate or fear to poison us – because they do if they are not recognized as a need for healing instead of a call to war.

          • arcadia11 says:

            this comment really worked for me. thank you.

          • Very interesting video Bin…thanks

          • arcadia11 says:

            i watched it then watched another of mercola interviewing wunsch. i am preparing an order
            for clear incandescent bulbs for purchase online. it took a quite a while to locate 75watters.

          • binra says:

            I hold that the ‘conspiracy’ to limit and degrade and ultimately deny consciousness runs beneath the conscious threshold, as fear and hatred of self and life – as life is perceived and believed to be – under the defence of a FALSE sense of self. But deeply lidded over by personal and social constructs set to keep such trauma from re-occurring as a prime directive.

            So on the ‘surface’ run programs and ideas of power and protection, as self validating cultures of identity/reality reinforcements – while beneath run the hidden ops, the narrative control, the masking off of what has been invalidated from the spectrum of official reality to a blinkered and filtered view at best and being hacked from within at worst – because expressions of fear or rage can and will mask behind appearances of respectability.

            So within the simple practical steps such as you are taking, there is a restoring of relationship with light as life energy – and with a spectrum of participance that the surface personality grew to cope within the lack of.

            I type this while sunbathing

          • arcadia11 says:

            “So within the simple practical steps such as you are taking, there is a restoring of relationship with light as life energy – and with a spectrum of participance that the surface personality grew to cope within the lack of.

            I type this while sunbathing”

            i agree. and i type this while sitting under an ominous collection of chemtrails and storm ‘clouds’. (northern california) i miss the life-giving sun greatly. when there is sunlight, i am joyfully in it.

            the purchase of an incandescent infrared heat lamp and the search for proper indoor lighting, which i thought i already had, came about from a desire. an understanding, a thought, a video, an article – one spontaneous appearance after another and here they are. when you reach ‘need of change’ in an area, even contemplating follow-through makes one feel better. i highly recommend the infrared lamp.

            healing light to all –

          • binra says:

            Yes the ‘ask and ye shall receive’ is noticing and aligning in true desire. A ‘mind-set’ of false desires operate just like the CDC – to keep the lid on.

            We have a ‘windowed’ wood stove that gives out IR so I feel my needs met there – but the healing of retinal stress/damage due to unbalanced, blue light over-exposure, is an interesting avenue of exploration. I’ve been using F-lux a while now but am becoming more conscious of the nature of light, energy, stimulation and balance.

          • arcadia11 says:

            binra – i have been using f.lux for quite a while and had been considering setting the daytime light at 2700k same as the after sunset light. after watching the video with mercola i finally reset it. it could be partly my imagination, but i noticed a difference in eye comfort immediately.

          • binra says:

            It is worth noting that some things that are in our face – and quite literally – can be operating in ways we don’t see – while affecting our capacity to see. So literally yes – and metaphorically also.

          • Robin Gaura says:

            Apparently, mercury can be removed, even from organs. There are chelation protocols, and diatomaceous earths work as well, as a cheap supplement.

          • Is that because of its electrical charge…because diateomaceous earth is 2%-5 or 6% alumina which is aluminum oxide which is aluminum. 

            And that does not belong in he human body. Aluminum is also dangerous for the brain

            Is mercury binding to the aluminum oxide and the silica which could and has been used to irradicate aluminum from the body…used a s the follow-up

            I have not heard this before. I thought ethyl-mercury poisoning was a permanent.

            Have you heard of horsetail, the herb, it grows wild out here were I am…it also is very high in chelated silica. I have been meaning to use it as a detox for years. I prepared jar and jars of the dried herb to detox aluminum out of my body,  and then as usual got distracted into something else. 

          • binra says:

            Yes but be aware that if you draw a lot at once via chelation – you can be toxified in the process – so listen and learn and be guided rather than engage a witchhunt without due vigilance.
            Also removal of fillings is very specialized to carry out safely – and abrupt changes in the metabolism can be very healing or very disruptive.
            ‘Feeling our way’ is not vague – but the willingness to be truly present in our focus, our choices and appreciations. So ‘good ideas’ can be mistimed or mis-applied.

            Forgive me if this is patronizing to your already sense of being – but I felt it worth adding as a contextual facet to the information you point out.

      • Sunshine says:

        So true Joy. So true and sad.

  5. swo8 says:

    A couple of years ago there was a book written in Canada called “Corrupt to the Core” by Shiv Chopra “Memoirs of a Health Canada Whistleblower” Much the same thing goes on here. We need these whistle blowers.

  6. gail007 says:

    Reblogged this on gail007 and commented:
    CDC corrupt to the core and whistle blowers blow the lid off. It is refreshing to know some scientists still have a conscience!

    • being1111 says:

      It is about time they do come forward. They are the “official” voices of science… officiating our world and consumption.

      I also expect the medical doctors to come forward as THEY officiate the approval of all the chemicals that THEY and they LET other industries put into our mouths. ITS IN THEIR HANDS. The hierarchies of medicine are supposed to be the stewards of our health – NOT when they prefer profits over our lives!

  7. gail007 says:

    Thank you Jon…for shedding this light on the ugly darkness at the CDC…sharing

  8. JJ says:

    Dear Sir. I would include in this list a thorough policy review of the annual influenza vaccine, assumptions used by global policy makers (e.g. WHO) to promote the annual flu vaccine, how evidence is generated AND DATA QUALITY, and importantly how policy decisions are made to promote and market annual vaccines, A WHO committee makes annual recommendations on the pandemic vaccine to be selected and the orderly process for mass production then global rollout follows. As this CDC article points out, the potential and real conflicts of interest found at each stage need to be clearly stated and made more transparent.

    A 2013 Cochrane review of the live attenuated and inactivated vaccine states that over 200 viruses cause influenza and ILI, producing the same symptoms (fever, headache, aches, pains, cough and runny noses). Without laboratory tests, doctors cannot distinguish between them as both last for days and rarely lead to death or serious illness. At best, vaccines may only be effective against influenza A and B, which represent about 10% of all circulating viruses. Annually, the World Health Organization estimates which viral strains should be included in the next season’s vaccinations.

    Quality of evidence for the review: The author states that the real impact of biases could not be determined for about 70% of the included studies (e.g. insufficient reporting details, very different scores among the items evaluated). About 20% of the included studies (mainly cohorts) had a high risk of bias. Just under 10% had good methodological quality.

    Recommendations: Given these inherent weaknesses in the data, the reviewer concluded that: Influenza vaccines have a very modest effect in reducing influenza symptoms and working days lost in the general population, including pregnant women. No evidence of association between influenza vaccination and serious adverse events was found in the comparative studies considered in the review. This review includes 90 studies, 24 of which (26.7%) were funded totally or partially by industry. Out of the 48 RCTs, 17 were industry-funded (35.4%).

    • Bill says:

      The flu vaccine is anything but harmless. According to the book “Vaccination is Not Immunization” , 4th edition, by Dr. Tim O’Shea, page 119:

      1. A new study of the VAERS data (vaccine injury) came out in late 2012 [280] that revealed two facts:
      a. The now common practice, once proscribed, of talking pregnant women into in utero flu vaccines for the unborn child
      b. The appalling 4,250% increase in fetal deaths

      The study from the Journal of Human Environmental Toxicology compared fetal deaths over three consecutive flu seasons. Not surprising when you realize that a flu shot usually contains 25 mcg of thimerosal (49.55% ethyl mercury), which is 30 times the EPA safe dose for an adult [138].

      2. According to Hugh Fudenburg MD, a leading immunogeneticist with some 850 papers peer-reviewed:

      “If an individual had 5 consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980, the chances of Alzheimer’s Disease was 10 times greater than for those getting … no shots.”

      Both mercury and aluminum are typically found in flu shots and both are neurotoxic (brain damaging). The new Adult Vaccination Schedule recommends yearly flu shots until the age of 60, but people would be wise to never take a single one.

    • @JJ

      LOL… word: Thimerosal

      LOOK IT UP!

    • I completely agree sir, Data QUALITY is harder to find than Data QUANTITY. I have Chronic Lyme Neuroborreliosis Complex along with Multiple Systemic Infectious Disease Syndrome (MSIDS). We are fighting against the CDC and the IDSA (where the CDC bases its instructions for doctor treatment guidelines). They seem to want to believe that continuous infections don’t exist although my 5 page senior thesis proves that it has several ways of doing so. Journals full of articles, yet nothing. I’ve been sick for going on 12 years now and in my 5th relapse of babesiosis (I obviously have lyme, bartonella, mycoplasma, and mold toxicity too), and a patient of a world renowned Lyme Literate Medical Doctor (LLMD). If your doctor doesn’t identify as Lyme friendly, leave, leave fast (don’t go to an Infectious Disease Doctor, unless they actively say LLMD, which mine is and does). We have a list to assist new ‘Lymies’ or those in need of a new doctor. I’m my doctor’s most complicated case, and we’ve been together for 7.5 yrs. Even though he’s 6 hrs away from me, he’s my general practitioner! To see our problems, go to YouTube and watch the documentary “Under or Skin”

      I get NO respect when I have a seizure in the ER or the fact that I have PTSD from an 8 day abusive incident in that hospital. I can no longer go there or I go into a full blown anxiety/PTSD attack ending with a seizure. They think I’m faking my grand mals, so refuse to treat. They sugar coat their discharge of me from the hospital (basically I interpret: ‘You’re a seeker, faker, have Munchausen’s)’ and everything goes on my record so if I come back, there’s what another doctor wrote about me.

      We’re tryin so hard to beat the CDC, they have a monetary agreement with the vaccine makers/big pharma and we’ve known it for years. What we didn’t know was the government monetary kickback due to us. “Keep us sick, more money quick”

  9. Cecille Chan says:

    They do not have to be fed numbers. They make up the numbers. The “36,000 number of people die every year of flu” turns out to be a combination of pneumonia and flu patients the CDC combined to boost the number of what they claim to be flu deaths. Year after year, that same number, 3600, is used to scare people into getting a flu vaccine. Only 18 out of that 36,000 actually tested positive for the flu. The infection control officer of the hospital I work for made a mistake of giving me his email address. I make sure he gets every article of this kind. I chide him about his “loyalty” to the “Lying CDC”. It is hard for some people to give up their financial security in exchange for living life honestly. But, soon, truth cannot be contained.

  10. MA in MO says:

    I would like to thank “The Spider Group” at the CDC for coming forward with this information. I know how tough it was for each of you risk your livelihoods to try and set things right. I am now retired. However, there was a period of time during my close to forty years of employment, that my boss was so untrustworthy that I was getting blamed for things that I did not even know about and would not even find out about until years later. Fortunately, I kept my job but it was only by the Grace of God. You, “The Spider Group”, have my prayers.

  11. NWO Reporter says:

    Great suggestions, Jon. But from the looks of the letter, those issues go far deeper than the most pressing concerns of the SPIDER group.

    The only reason the CDC enjoys any “credibility and reputation as a trusted leader in public health” is because of the Orwellian nature of the world we live in. The SPIDER scientists are clearly fully ensconced in it.

    We learn from the letter that “most of the scientists at CDC operate with the utmost integrity and ethics.” I guess it is easy to assure themselves of that, as long as they don’t question any of the fundamental foundations of their mission, in true Orwellian fashion. I mean, everyone knows that Rockefeller medicine and vaccines saved the world, right?

    The SPIDER group seems particularly concerned that “Most staff do not enjoy such unique positions supported and approved by a Center Director. Dr. Pratt has scored a sweet deal (not available to most other scientists at CDC).”

    Perhaps if more such “sweet deals” were made available, the objections would dissipate. No doubt the CDC is exploring the possibilities right now.

    That said, kudos to the SPIDER group for their activism, such as it is.

  12. It takes real courage to blow the whistle. Now thousands more need to come forward as the dominoes start to fall.

  13. blavatsky3 says:

    Great post Jon,

    Keep up the good work.

    Dr Richard Caruana BDS


  14. Oliver K. Manuel says:

    Thank you, Jon, for continuing to expose the web of deceit that now engulfs the world.

    Fear of world-wide nuclear annihilation probably triggered the decision to take totalitarian control of humanity and rule by deceit after WWII.

  15. I’m so glad this is coming out to awaken more and more people! Thanks for the good work, Jon.

  16. David says:

    [..] I have a sneaking suspicion they just wanted to form a group called “SPIDER” and then filled it in with the Scientists Preserving Integrity, blah blah blah afterwards…or maybe I’m just a tin-foil hat conspiracy wacko.

    • AnotherLover says:

      Pretty hokey, right? They’re nerds — give ’em a break.

      • David says:

        I actually just read the headline and mistook them for a group of nerds defending the CDC…woops. Pretty amazing Trump has RFK Jr. on board to help expose this deliberate attack on humanity.

  17. From Quebec says:

    I never took a Flu shot in my life, and I never had the flu… nor did I had a cold by the way.

    And I am 72 years old.

    I believe the more you stay away from doctors, the more you stay healthy.

  18. Wrusssr says:

    There’s a light shinning in the ship’s hold! Can you see the bilge rats yet?

    Believe I saw their knees buckle ever so slightly while reading your article, Jon. Great piece, great writing for our times. The effort is cumulative. And damn if that doesn’t look like a tsunami forming out there on the Internet horizon.

    “Men of dark nature shun the light”
    (A repost of a commentary from reader, Jeff Lang).

    “At times one has to deal with hidden enemies, intangible influences that slink into dark corners and from this hiding affect people by deception. In instances like this, it is necessary to trace these things back to the most secret recesses, in order to determine the nature of the influences to be dealt with. The very anonymity of such plotting requires an especially vigorous and indefatigable effort, but this is well worth the while. For when such elusive influences are brought into the light and branded, they lose their power over people.

    “Here, the dark principle, in itself rigid and immovable, is dissolved by the penetrating light principle, to which it subordinates itself in deference. In human life it is penetrating clarity of judgment that thwarts all dark hidden motives. In the life of the community it is the powerful influence of great personalities that uncovers and breaks up those intrigues which shun the light of day. In nature, it is the wind that disperses the gathering clouds, leaving the sky clear and serene. The penetrating quality of the wind depends on its ceaselessness. This is what makes it so powerful; time is its instrument.

    “Thus also in nature a sublime seriousness is to be seen in the fact that natural occurrences are uniformly subject to law. When the wind blows over the land it goes far and wide, and the grass must bend to its power. In daily life, what goes around, comes around. Smile at someone and they will smile at you. Throw a punch and you will get punched. If respect is sincere and expressive of real faith, the contemplation of this has a transforming and awe-inspiring effect on those who witness it.

    “Contemplation of the divine meaning underlying the workings of the universe gives to the man or woman who is called upon to influence others the means of producing like effects. This requires that power of inner concentration which sincere contemplation develops in great men and women strong in faith. It enables them to apprehend the mysterious and divine laws of life, and by means of profound inner concentration they give expression to these laws in their own persons. Thus a hidden spiritual power emanates from them, influencing others without their being aware of how it happens, swayed as the grass by the wind.

    “Actions have consequences.

    “The ‘power elite’ can subvert the rule of law and hide behind lies all they like but only a fool could not see the harvest of hate and destruction that will spring from such evil seeds as are now being sowed. Only a fool—or an elitist so wadded in wealth and privilege that he believes these malignant fruits will never touch him personally.

    “Time will tell.”


    The evil seeds sowed by the Zionist-financed Bolsheviks during the 1917 “Russian” Revolution and subsequent Russian Holocaust that left at least 60 million (+) Russians executed, starved, or imprisoned, are at work today; only with different tools. In lieu of bullets, we find faux pandemics, faux “Aids epidemics”, GMO’d food, dangerous vaccines and pharmaceuticals, Chem-trailing of nanoed aluminum, strontium, and barium in the stratosphere filtering into earth and water — all on a global scale this go-round.

    And time will again tell.

  19. voza0db says:

    You should had included #4: HIV/AIDS!

    The FRAUD is evident!

    How can a “sexual transmitted syndrome” be of sexual nature if it takes at least:

    Receptive Penile-Vaginal Intercourse: 8 per 10.000 exposures

    Insertive Penile-Vaginal Intercourse: 4 per 10.000 exposures

    Or, as some other sources say:

    only about 1 in 1,000 unprotected sexual exposures lead to a successful HIV-1 infection.

    This means +- 2,7 fornication’s per day, or 1 fornication a day during 2 years and nine months!

    Not to mention the other means!!

  20. The CDC is not a leader in sickness, much less a leader in health.

  21. INGAORAMA says:

    How come CDC members are not all in jail after the big cover up scandal of MMR vaccine causing Autism research outcome -their own research..? Well..I can self answer that actually- because BIG Pharma owns these members of CDC and BIG PHARMA also own all politicians since they found every campaign offices..well.. they did not found Trump campaign so that is actually making them shitting in their pants now..he is a wild card for them… BIG PHARMA also rule all mainstream media since Rupert Murdock is the owner of them all direct and un direct – his sons sit on the boards of some.. same is about the biggest drug corporations – and the old Rupert also owns shares in Merck and siuts on board ( and his sons) on other now you may start to understand why we can not get the truth out into the fabricated media..In my small country Iceland the say no to publishing article I wrote about Merck and Rupert Murdock and Toyota .. actually comparing Merck and Toyota who did care more about public welfare..well Merck loose there… Anyway..the biggest (fabricated) newspaper media in Iceland say no to the article “because of the content” but what it was in the article did kill the free writing and speech I did not get to know.. Iceland sadly to say is often called “mini America” :-(.. Just remember what you read about Iceland in the steamboiled fabricated mainstream media is not half of it true!…

    • elliottjab says:

      Wow! Often wondered about much of Iceland. Been there but once; read of the banking/ economy fiasco; now see there is a push to join the EU… This last is not good… My opinion only.

      Thanks for the comment.

  22. R says:


    In conjunction with the Swine flu ‘pandemic’ I noticed that GSK had made deals with France, Britain, Germany and the State of New York to buy millions of doses of the swine flu vaccine. Poland objected citing no evidence of a pandemic much less a ‘bad flu’ season. That same year the entire polish cabinet died in a plane crash. This might be worthy of your in investigative skills.

  23. Jon,

    I was of the opinion at the time of writing (as I still am) that there is a armada of torpedos available and waiting to sink the CDC, so why hasn’t it happened (thus far)? Therefore, this old article of mine reviewed the “spider” as a distraction:

    What happens in Trump’s “reign” will negate whether opinions change…

    My “latest” (not remotely topical) was released yesterday and gives you a number of mentions in a positive light:


  24. Tami says:

    Jon, the FluMist was created, I am sure, to spread “flu”. Why else would the CDC allow swine flu, same strain that caused GBS (see You Tube: Mike Wallace/60 Minutes/Swine Flu for a reminder of the 1976 disster) to be shoved into kids brains thru their nasal caviy, with 3 other flu strains? That’s a direct hit to the brain. (You know why people snort cocoaine? cuz it goes directly into the brain!).

    FluMist triggered an epidemic of autoimmune encehalopathy, (“AE”)including anti-NMDAR antibodies, and “PANDAS” & “PANS”. The study on mice proved that mice given flumist colonized strep & staph like crazy in their noses/throats, and shed/spread. So 4 live viruses PLUS staph & strep? Good lord. The target audience/age was school age thru working age- so folks that were in the office or classrooom all day, shedding on the unsuspecting, to help propogate more flu and more fear….and unfortunately, it caused a helluva lot of other damage. Parents reported spikes in AE/PANDAS of 1 in 200 or more. Recovery, if even possible is years of antibiotics, tonsillectomies, and IVIG or plasmapheresis. I want to see CDC employees walked out of the office in striped suits

  25. AnotherLover says:

    I watched a room full of cutting-edge researchers discussing pneumonia once. We all have the pneumonia bug in us at least periodically, and will for our entire lives. We fight it back constantly. What they said is that, in short, pneumonia kills sick people. Before someone is so sick that different parts of their system are shutting down, pneumonia can be killed — generally by the person’s own immune system! It’s not a matter of compromised immune systems or lack of antibiotics. It’s a matter of a sick person ready to die — pneumonia kills them because their plumbing shuts down a little — the antibodies from their own immune system or a shot or wherever can’t reach the bug, and it the bug kills them (like if you have an infected root canal tooth — the bugs can hide in the tooth and come back for ya at any time, regardless of antibiotics). Long and short, it’s a totally natural end of life that’s got nothing to do with the flu. CDC for prison 2017!!!!!

  26. binra says:

    Living a lie of a false but seemingly necessary ‘self-protection’ at expense and in place of the true, operates the psycho-emotional defence of mind-adjustment seeking reinforcement and validation for itself over and against feared and largely unrecognised and distorted true. The mind adjustment within the lie grows and enables the ‘world or ‘reality’ accepted and believed true.

    The cost of living the lie becomes un-bearable when the belief in power and protection of self-specialness can no longer weave a narrative reality by which to render the actual cost unconscious – and distributed, dumped or out sourced onto ‘others’.

    But truth can ONLY come home and the truth of the USE of lies to get life-energy at the cost and loss of others IS the belief one is attacked or under threat of loss of self and life and MUST attack first – though the mind usually lays down a complex set of justifications and plausible deniabilities so as to seem right in defence.

    The lie – given persistence psycho-emotional investment – is an ‘attack’ on the reality of truly sensed communication and the breakdown of communication of reality. It posits a world of liars whose lives or existence depends upon escaping and diverting THREAT where the real nature of the threat cannot be acknowledged and shared – for the lie is protected by the wish to keep what it is believed to confer the power of.

    The true nature of Consciousness as an expression and extension of focus within awareness is hidden by an exclusive focus within the construct of the personality operating the reality-experience of physically bounded or determined sense of existence.

    The lie and the father of the lie are the wish to private, independent, power over your own reality – as if outside or above it – and believing this thought or ‘mind’ as your own is in the shadow of believing power is lost and love betrayed or denied, rejected or abandoned. The power of Mind never stops – and simply works through the thought being held or accepted true – and so the asking for power over believed and perceived lack, loss and attack generates the sense of self.

    Ideas and ‘minds’ are communication devices – but their use as weapons of possession operates the fear of loss and attempt to get or become more than what is – which works an imaginative layer of fear-driven self-definition in place of true recognition, appreciation and grateful sharing in what is and what we are.

    The fear of contagion is the contagion of fear, and the wish for and alignment in the power of protection seeks magical ‘solution’ when the nature and content of the fear is personally and societally defined so fearfully as to be denied and displaced or made taboo.

    Un-owned and even un-known or unconscious fear becomes the pathway of a manipulative re-inforcement of power over consciousness. Sickness offers a powerful witness to the ‘reality’ of the justification and necessary or compulsive tyranny of fear that feeds or sacrifices to power over symptoms in place of facing fears.

    A lie is an wishful evasion by which to temporarily defer awareness of consequence, and can be undone by recognizing and embracing the true. But to build on lies is to be out of touch with one’s own being, unaware of life and ‘running’ within the construct of a war against Who you truly are – in terms that are not true of you – but to which you are strangely devoted as the life it seems to confer.

    How close to destruction we choose to persist in when the pervasive and systemic cost of deceit is so inescapably in our face?

    Regardless of thoughts as to whether our world can be salvaged or redeemed of such self and other destructive self-delusion – the movement of true being is to re-align true. This is the awakening. Love of true because it is true and not because it confers power of self-specialness in meanings of a fragmented self-distortion. The true noticing of the USE of lie or deceit is a stepping stone to then releasing it to align truly and KNOW from a fresh perspective of expansion and embrace – because the mind of the lie denies, limits and rejects.

    In what I wrote here I believe I have not called upon blame. Blame and guilt are the characteristic signature within the lie. Acceptance of consequence is a matter of realignment in healing communication – at all levels. So what is consequence without blame but necessary freeing of awareness for communication of addressing the correction of error?

    • Sunshine says:

      I am finally starting to understand what you’re saying Binra :-).

      The lies are so easily believed because many of us are not willing to accept that others would purposely harm us. But the facts, all around us, prove otherwise. So we either accept the lies and lie to ourselves, in spite of the truth, or we accept the truth which open the door to shine light on the facts.

      And in doing so we find layers of lies. The Spider report, as an example, reveals monetary corruption within the CDC, but does not report about the harmful effects of vaccines and medications. Individuals can accept corruption at a certain level but won’t look into deeper levels of corruption because they are not willing to believe that level of evil. “What, vaccines harmful? That’s crazy talk! Without the polio vaccine we’d all be dead.” And what would that do to us if we accepted we allowed a bunch of harmful crap (fetal cells, animal cells, mercury, etc.) to be put in our children’s bodies? Talk about brain freeze. If you can accept that, what else will you accept? Poison in our food, human waste and medications in our fertilizers (infecting our soil for decades), chemtrails, govt orchestrated terrorist attacks and murders, govt surpressed cures, corp owned media, corporation run govt or govt as an LLC, economic manipulation and more.

      The layers of deceit are revealed and unravel at the rate your mind can accept.

      • binra says:

        Yes. No one can accept what they are not yet ready to. The psychic-emotional patterns or imprints that make each of our personality structure have levels or layers of entanglement and reciprocity.
        Every action has an equal and opposite reaction – BUT actions within a whole that are aligned with wholeness are not oppositional to anything – being of a kind with the idea of zero point energy.
        Finding our own freedom is a balancing focus within awareness. Embodying this, is living from a different place. Within a false self-centric system – the creative will seem eccentric, UNTIL resonance awakens as the true-centred perspective – that simply cannot be defined and fixed down with ideas and symbols – and the attempt to describe as such at best can invite resonance but at worst becomes another basis for the subversion and usurping of the FORMS of the new by the same old system of oppositional bi-polar exclusion zones.

        As an example, it was found that having an illness conferred immunity to the same illness – and so the attempt to usurp nature attempted to do so under controlled optimum conditions – (not unlike the idea of sacrificing one’s breasts in advance of getting any sign of cancer!} – so for example, smallpox itself was infected by design into wealthy well fed and well cared for people so as to become free of the fear of getting it later – and attend it with maximal support for recovery. Vax developed out of such ideas – and its psychic-emotional pattern is a version of ‘paying a limited sacrifice to escape a total sacrifice’. That imprint runs through everything in one way or another – so much so that sacrifice of self-denial is associated with safety and whole self-fullness is considered heretical.

        My experience has been that the expansion of consciousness in some quality of true being – OPENS the capacity to embrace the negative that previously HAD to be kept hidden – and therefore demanded sacrifice of my wholeness AS the limited or split or denied sense of consciousness that was not only believed and asserted but automatically and fully protected.
        That’s why we have associations of love bringing pain – because a true opening to love OPENS the space to transform the denied self and its world reflection – but until it grows its own self-awareness through such a transformed personality structure, the experience SEEMS to be of opening up only to get ripped off or shut down. Honest noticing – sees that no matter what any one else does or says – or what conditions operate – it is MY OWN acceptance of negative or fearful or lacking self-definition, that actively contracts and withdraws and withholds.

        That being said – I AM defined by how I define and relate to others so if I want to live my freedom – and I do – then I HAVE to relate to you through yours. That’s the same as “judge not – lest YOU be judged”. I don’t count noticing judgements as being the same as acting as if they are TRUE. So the judgemental mind becomes a basis to read back to my own resonant imprinting – and then act for a wholeness that energetically frees everyone involved – without of course requiring they accept it now.

        Who wants vengeance has no interest in freedom except to do as they believed themselves done by. The energetic of this can be psychologically investigated – but the psycho-emotion experience re-enacted is the triggered state in which it is very denying of consciousness while activated. It operates BLINDLY – yet strategically according to the original fear-judgement.

        Fear of the hated weakness within or fear of the hateful monster within – has NOT looked within when such scripts are activated – because the primary defence is to project WITHOUT – the sense of betrayal or worthlessness believed within. Putting CAUSE outside ourself and feeling powerful by nature of splitting off and limiting.

        Fear is the underlying oppositional force arising as a result of a blinded self-specialness – that induces it, protects it and propagates it as a fake reality. Within the fake reality are Bogeymen or evil agenda and agencies – but our fear is our entrance-ment subscription. Transforming or undoing fear is not loss of self or reality but changing channel. Operating a different frequency and open to more inclusive perspective.

        Beliefs fixate perspective – excepting when stepping forth from a truly free point to prefer to believe yourself worthy of life and love – and act in accord with that as your relationship, your day, your endeavour. When thought word and deed align – they are not painted on or masked in. Nor do they seek validation form others – because a sense of worth sees itself in others – beneath or beyond the masking that may hide that in every kind of strategy. I cannot release another’s addiction or attachment to their mask, but I can relate to their willingness to accept and share in a true sense of worth.

        Any moment of a resonant recognition is part of growing willingness to focus in that balanced awareness that mere thinking blinds to. This cant be forced – but only ‘let into’.

  27. Modernminuteman says:

    Finally in Trump we will have a real American president and those that are trying to destroy him are exposing themselves for the NWO puppets they are Hollywood, Academia, MSM, U.N. and far too many in Washington.

  28. Sci-reader says:

    The Fluzone HD flu vaccine, pushed for older people, according to the package insert says it contains less than or equal to 100 micrograms of formaldehyde, an industrial chemical also used in the embalming industry. Formaldehyde is used to kill or attenuate the live viruses in the vaccine. Doing the math, one dose of this vaccine would provide 2 x 10^18 or 2 million trillion molecules of formaldehyde, a known carcinogen into the human body. The vaccine also contains less than or equal to 250 micrograms of a surfactant, octylphenol ethoxylate. I haven’t yet looked into what this does to the body. One reference claimed DNA damage.

  29. Donald Canaday says:

    Manufacter of vaccine must insert telling pharmaceutical of any side effect,for at least ten years.

  30. no more vaccines says:

    two great books: Dissolving Illusions, Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History, and Rising From The Dead, Suzanne Humphries, MD I have a child damaged from these vaccines, that has made me into a Gladiator fighting ,against these corrupt, evil, for profit only, PEOPLE – hiding behind some corporation. I personally know nurses that don’t vaccinate their children but vaccinate other children for a paycheck. I was a nanny for one of these order followers- when I found this out – I quit. We all need to take a stand of non-compliance. That takes courage. I don’t miss the money I earned from her. She knows why I left – and remembers this every time she shoots a little one with poison in their little arms. Take a stand.

  31. Robin Gaura says:

    The swine flu scare really impacted tourism in Mexico, causing serious hardships in Puerto Vallarta and other communities.

    • binra says:

      Income from tourism is vulnerable to anything that associates that location with fear – whether a real or contrived terror/virus attack threat. War operates across a ‘broad spectrum’ and weaponising of any and every vector is operating the disintegration of what culture and consciousness remains. Because it is masked or fake communication.

      The marketizing of everything is part of the same thing when operating at expense of relational communication, so tourism can operate like prostitution, where in some sense selling access to one’s body/location for money replaces the Guest and Host relationship. Perhaps the most primary foundation of human culture.

      The assigning of nature, our nature and natural world, and other living beings, as merely something to be used; to get from, and discard, is the de-naturing and de-sacralizing of ourselves and our world and the meaninglessness that is avoided and so becomes a void to cover over or fill with gratifications and diversions – is a psycho-emotional sickness.

      But yes the ‘scare’ is a weapon. Zika! operated a payload against BRIC – but also a cover story for toxic genocide. But crying ‘wolf!’ invalidates the one who calls falsely and any ONE instance of open fraud at the top levels brings the whole edifice into focus as a mask over tyranny of deceit – and everything about the model it purports and is supported by is brought into question – and thus incites a true educative enquiry.

      The sickness of the vax/cancer/pharming racket invokes re-wakening and discovering of true nature, consciousness and alignment in wholeness of being – IF healing calls louder than hate or vengeance. This isn’t about making everything nice or fair so much as owning our experience and living who we are in place of who we are conditioned to believe we are.

      There are aspects of cultural communication that are fundamental to our collective sanity or coherence. ‘Getting away with’ a sense of power to direct attention and reaction becomes an identity in the appetite for it. People are seen as mechanism – because they are not really seen at all.

      Is Corporate Globalism a mind-blinding sickness that makes swine of human beings – and propagates itself through the export of false appetites?

      Tourism impacts hardships that are somewhat invisible now – because they are normalized. It’s all a matter of context.

      Every mind seeks completion in the terms that mind defines. For some the eradication of undesirables, for others the possession of all they feel dispossessed of. The fear-minded are in conflict within themselves. Externalised identity conflict can never resolve – but multiplies as fragmentations in which we are unknowingly attacked by our own self-denials.

      Perhaps denied self-conflict is the device by which an ‘externalized’ reality – which we feel divorced and compelled to define and control, operates as a shared construct. A false matrix of dissociated minds cast in personae – but an experience is opened through it that we elect to persist in – as if no other choice is available. Tourists in our own Life.

  32. jacobite2015 says:

    Thanks Jon for the information and all you do on the vaccine issue. However, I’m not sure why so many posters are lauding these “Spider” scientists. If these scientists have the goods on the CDC, then they should knock off the anonymity act and come foward.

    Enough people have already been damaged by vaccines. Deaths, permanent injury, suffering, etc. Lives forever changed, families in ruins, people depressed & frustrated. I, myself, recently lost a family member to complications from a vaccine-induced autoimmune disease. My family’s in ruin, depressed & angry. Vaccines supposedly safe and effective by the CDC. Lol. And these “Spider” people want to play games and not come foward and try to put a stop to this insanity! ????

    William Thompson came foward with incriminating evidence of fraud at the CDC. Then he went into hiding and hasn’t spoken since. What a WIMP! If he, too, wanted to make a difference he would testify before congress and the World to what he knows. But he doesn’t, and continues to remain quiet while so many continue to suffer from the consequences of vaccines ????

    So, therefore, I don’t see what so great about these “anonymous” scientists who want to play games and not “step up to the plate” and do what’s right for once.

    • binra says:

      I wonder if you are aware of the consequence of ‘coming out’?
      Lets have something from you that takes all your courage to confess to!
      It’s too easy to throw stones.
      The only reason I see for breaking false silence is that untruth or self-betrayal cannot be tolerated any more – regardless the penalties.
      Congress is owned. If you look at the medical racket and its persecution record – you will see that even with powerful support – ie Congressmen, and others – a much greater power shuts it down and shuts them down.
      Have a read up. Or follow your own breadcrumb trail.

      I have no idea as to whether there is a ‘spider group’ or not – its a story that may be true. But I don’t imagine anyone finds it comfortable to support fraud that results in suffering and death – and so they compartmentalize or lose their mind enough to believe something that keeps the bad feeling away. Isn’t that how it works? Isn’t that the assertive beliefs that become so aggressive when challenged?

      • stock says:

        Ya, retaliation is common. I have been sacked for complaining too loudly on clear cut safety issues (like 250lb bombs under the mess hall). Career scientists would rightly so consider whether losing their pension was “worth it”

      • jacobite2015 says:

        Who’s side are you on? I think you’re posturing and making excuses for these people. Try seeing it from my side…I lost a family member to complications from a vaccine-induced autoimmune disease! Anger, frustration, depression, hopelessness, etc. And many other families are also suffering with the loss of, or the permanent damage done to, a loved one by the destruction forces of vaccines ????

        So I’ll reiterate: I think the “Spider” group is a joke. If they have “the goods” on the CDC, then “man-up” and come foward and do something noble. Otherwise, they’re are just an accessory to the problems at the CDC…no surprises there. And as I said before, IMO, Thompson is nothing but a WIMP for running and hiding like a scared rabbit. He comes out with incriminating evidence of fraud against the CDC and now pulls a “Houdini” and disappears. Is his salary, parking space, company picnic tickets, etc., more important than to testify in front of Congress and help put a stop to this carnage being caused by vaccines?

        FWIW, I don’t think you have a clue what my family and I are going through or you wouldn’t have posted a comment that appears to rationalize and defend their actions ????

        • NWO Reporter says:

          I agree, Jacobite. The parasitic psychopaths pulling the strings of the world never get their own hands dirty–their plans would never be carried out but for the minions who do it for them. Many serve them unwittingly, reap the many benefits of doing so for years, and would sacrifice it all if they “came out.” But they are still the greatest danger to humanity, whether their servitude is based on naivete, willful blindness or self-interest. We can have compassion for predators, but they are still dangerous.

          The Spider group may very well just be a psy-op, a limited hangout to do a little surface sweeping up around the Cathedral of Destruction of Civilization. Their letter doesn’t even come close to exposing the depths of the evil that resides there. It makes it sounds as if the CDC’s mission is all about “caring.”

        • binra says:

          Ah… ‘sides’! – well there’s nothing can butt into a holy war and be recognized. As Dubya said – “you’re with us or against us”. I don’t live that way – but I do see that something is true of me or NOT – so I live what I recognize and appreciate and am alert against the deceiver of a denied fears.

          Now the psychopathic scum are being used as the ‘vermin’ term – and as the mob gets good and charged – just watch how easily manipulated as a weapon of the ones you thought to be shutting down or killing.

          I do not live from hate – though of course I can feel it – and feel it more acutely BECAUSE I don’t dump it out on ‘THEM’.

          I want truth to come out – and as far as I see it you want vengeance – and so you get in the way. That’s the liability of emotional reaction. You may need to feel it as part of your own healing – but it is not sanity from which to act.

          I’m not a stranger to suffering – but I don’t make it my religion and I don’t say that against you – but to witness that this is generally what the world does. This sacrifice of truth to an assertion imprinted over the top of it is exactly what you hate in ‘psychopathic monsters’. Like begets like.

          I don’t have to heal or redeem those who do not know what love is except they hate and fear it. But if the truth is witnessed – they will have no support to persist in a destructive and hateful agenda – and if culpable under the law, be constrained from freedom to continue hurting others.

          We have to work with what we have. IF the spider group is genuine – then it is a sign of change. I don’t doubt there are many who are involved in hateful acts who are compromised in any number of ways. However, the capacity for deceit is possible in playing on hopeful wishes. But I see other signs of opening the Vax issue.

          I offer this a a true sign of hope. Not so long ago I read of a doctor campaigning to get butter banned as a health risk – I found that scary – and the regulators are always keen to tighten the noose. But soon after a wave of findings received publicity to the fact that processed sugar or margarine is the health risk – and that butter (natural saturated fats) were demonised to throw us into the cholesterol fallacy, deprive us of healthy fats and toxify with margarine and other crap.

          The root of all this I see is the fear and hatred of our true nature – does that ring a bell? Re-read 3 paras up. The psychopathic killer can be triggered within our mind. Be vigilant. Don’t be deceived. Hate and fear are the sign of not being in your Right Mind – so take your finger off any significant reaction and go within to see what’s really going on. You don’t have to ‘go’ anywhere else – just let what is here reveal itself to your desire to know.

          The principle distortion to the psychopath is the REFUSAL to look within – think – yes they can be extremely intelligent – but they cannot truly FEEL – and nor does anyone who hasn’t awakened from the emotionalism of a fake reality.

          True feeling is knowing – of the heart or whole body. The mind cant come in between – but the wish to know DIFFERENT than you are does SEEM to come between and there’s the manipulator we all say we love to hate in others and hide in ourselves.

          Blame and hate is poison. Transmuting such toxicity is a healing unto life – if you want no part of an agenda that harms and kills – then align YOURSELF and relinquish support or participation in it thought, word and deed – whenever you notice it running in your name. Your anger can then serve you – because it offers the force of realignment. You can then be active in a more truly integrated way in witnessing truth in a collusion of lies – but without the righteous hate – your true presence empowers your witnessing.

          Waking up is more than reacting – and reacting re-enacts the old patterns – through millennia…

          • stock says:

            Even 2 minutes of meditation helps. It is simple, just listen to your own breathing, deep and slow. Start with 2, then try 5.

            Big difference.

          • binra says:

            Pausing reaction is essential – by whatever means, but a willingness has to find you or be found for a receptivity in place of asserting the narrative identity. ANY degree of receptivity is met – because the movement of being hasn’t stopped or gone away just because a state of illusion is engaged in – so some re-alignment or reintegration operates through the space opened by willingness to pause and ‘listen’ or feel. The movement of being is a wholeness – in which recognition occurs.
            Complexity is designed to engage and divert the mind so as to make the simple – the last thing on the list. GETTING to the point of willingness is the ‘difficult’ part because it is fighting our self – but receptivity allows communication – and that is a gift – not sacrifice or an initiatory ordeal – though we can create that scenario – and generally do.

            Noticing reaction in thought, word or deed is AWARENESS – but given to blame, is the sacrifice of awareness – but hey – you get to feel you are right!

            But yes – just breathing – being here – being with. No intellectual feat required – and reconnecting rises as the forms that are relevant and resonantly You – who else could you possibly recognize as yourself. 😉

  33. Jon please write about the cdc attack on disabled chronic pain patients who are careful & respectful with our drugs because they let us have activity and inclusion while the solution to illegal misuse of our meds by people breaking the law!!! How about going after real perpetrators or if you overdose you get a free pass to rehab & lessons in morals!

    Honorable men and women are suffering to keep lawbreakers from killing themselves helping themselves to our drugs! To hell with them, the pills didn’t jump from their parent’s cabinet and into their mouths!

  34. INGAORAMA says:

    Reblogged this on Ingaorama and commented:
    Dear Spider Group:
    I commend you on making an important start. You’re on the right road. As a reporter who has covered the CDC for many years, I offer you three suggestions. This short list is by no means exhaustive. I’m just pointing to a few areas where your own research will yield very rich and fertile results.ONE: SWINE FLU FRAUD.
    TWO: THE CDC BUYS MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF VACCINES AND, AT THE SAME TIME, HEADS UP RESEARCH ON THE SAFETY OF VACCINES. EXPLOSIVE STRUCTURAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THREE: MASSIVE OVERESTIMATE OF FLU DEATHS IN THE US, IN ORDER TO PUSH THE FLU VACCINE. The CDC must turn out a steady stream of outrageous lies about the need for vaccines. If they didn’t, they’d have no way to justify the billions of dollars they spend every year buying the vaccines from drug companies.
    So, Spider Group, don’t stop now. Deepen your probe. Become true heroes for honest research, expose the deep roots of corruption in your Agency, and do the right thing for the American people you’re sworn to serve.

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