Memo to Joe Rogan: check out the horse-urine women

by Jon Rappoport

October 27, 2021

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First, a quick summary. You reported that, after you were diagnosed with COVID, you took a drug called Ivermectin, which is a horse-dewormer. CNN played that up and slammed you. Of course, the drug is also certified for use in humans. CNN downplayed or ignored that.

Here’s something you may not know. There are hundreds of thousands of women who take horse urine. I’m not kidding.

I don’t think CNN knows about this. If they did, they would surely call these women the horse-urine crowd and mercilessly attack and mock them, right?

I now quote from a PETA page. You may want to feature this information on your podcast:

“Every year, doctors prescribe hormone replacement therapy (HRT)—also referred to as menopausal hormone therapy—to hundreds of thousands of women experiencing menopausal symptoms. One of the HRT drugs that has historically been among the most widely prescribed is made from animal waste. The drug is Premarin, an estrogen-therapy drug currently manufactured by Pfizer (formerly Wyeth Pharmaceuticals), which also produces Prempro, an estrogen/progestin combination. Both drugs contain horse urine, specifically pregnant mare’s urine (PMU). Not only has this form of HRT proved to be dangerous to humans, horses raised for their urine are also kept confined and pregnant, and their foals often end up in the slaughterhouse.”

“According to an industry report, 19 ranches in remote areas of Canada house approximately 1,300 pregnant mares who produce urine for Premarin and Prempro. For most of their 11-month pregnancies, these horses are confined to stalls so small that they cannot turn around or take more than a single step in any direction. The animals must wear rubber urine-collection bags at all times, which causes chafing and lesions, and their drinking water is limited so that their urine will yield more concentrated estrogen. Once the foals are born, the horses are impregnated again, and this cycle continues for about 12 years. PMU ranchers are expected to follow the ‘Recommended Code of Practice for the Care and Handling of Horses in PMU Operations,’ but beyond the call for an ‘inspection program,’ adherence to these guidelines is not tracked nor enforced.”

“Some of the thousands of foals born on PMU farms each year are used to replace their exhausted mothers. Some are offered for adoption, but the remaining foals—along with worn-out mares—are sold at auction, where most are purchased by buyers for slaughterhouses.”

“In 2002, the Women’s Health Initiative (WHI), a study of more than 16,000 women using Prempro, was abruptly halted by the federal government after it concluded that HRT raises a woman’s risk of having a stroke by 41 percent, her risk of suffering a heart attack by 29 percent, and her risk of developing breast cancer by 26 percent. A follow-up study of the women a decade later found that, in addition to an increase in breast cancer rates, the cancer tended to be advanced and cause death. Dr. Freya Schnabel, of New York University’s Langone Medical Center, cautioned, ‘I think from this point onward any woman who’s considering taking hormone replacement therapy will need to genuinely consider these risks’.”

“The WHI also found that Prempro has no meaningful effects on women’s physical or emotional health, pain levels, memory, sleeping patterns, or energy levels. The researchers concluded that Prempro is effective for short-term relief of hot flashes but nothing else. Many women find that they can control hot flashes and other menopausal symptoms by making easy lifestyle changes—like eating a low-fat vegetarian diet and getting regular exercise—rather than contributing to animal suffering. Dr. Jennifer Hays from the Baylor College of Medicine commented, ‘The average woman will not experience an improvement in her quality of life by taking this pill’…”

Once you expose this information on your worldwide podcast, Joe, I’m sure CNN, the most busted name in news, will cover it and issue an official apology to you.

After a horse jumps over the moon.

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45 comments on “Memo to Joe Rogan: check out the horse-urine women

  1. Pat Ammeter says:

    I live in Alberta where these PMU barns were in operation a couple miles from where we live during the sixties and seventies. The urine from pregnant horses was collected and was a main ingredient in birth control pills.

    The PMU barns are long gone as the chemical birth control pills took over. I am not aware of PMU production for menopause but that doesn’t mean this barns don’t exist yet today.

  2. Orpheus Owl says:

    Jon, you may not know that Joe Rogan is a die-hard animal-hating hunter who openly espouses a meat diet and is openly anti-plant-based diet and veganism. He also considers PETA to be the “enemy” and radical extremists.

    The horse will jump over the moon if Rogan ever says one word against animal suffering like what goes on in the Premarin industry and all slaughterhouses.

    • Tim_2A says:

      A small criticism on your opinion (ONLY) regarding hunters. We are NOT “haters” of animals. If you’ve ever enjoyed the sight of wild ducks flying overhead, or schools of trout or salmon swimming in a deep riverbottom, or even the squirrels in your neighborhood treetops, thank the conservation efforts, partially paid for by licensing of hunters (by paying for hunting tags), through your state Fish, Game, and Wildlife departments.

      If not for the hunters, and our many years of conservation efforts, the practice of “market” hunting (and fishing) would still be the norm, and the previously mentioned neighborhood squirrels, among many other wild fauna, would have been hunted to, or near, extinction.

      This also bears mentioning: where predatory animals have been (sometimes stupidly) re-introduced, the balance of nature is violently disturbed, and sometimes hunting to restore that balance is a viable option.

      Anyway, wild meat is healthier to eat than ‘factory farmed,’ so that’s my final word on it.

    • ron martin says:

      Joe Rogan is a hunter like most moral, rational people that post on this site. Please go back to your fake global warming and green new deal zombie sites and stay off of normie sites like this […]

    • oldbat says:

      yeah i saw a pic of him with a triceratops that he had bagged.. 🙂

    • Haniel Adhar says:

      I ate BBQ owl yesterday and it was tasty and full of omega fatty acids!

  3. Atom says:

    Except for the advice to eat a low-fat vegetarian diet, this was an illuminating article.

  4. M - says:

    We I began menopause and experiencing horrific hot flashes, my doctor prescribed Premarin. When I learned how it was made and the suffering caused to the animals I stopped it after just two months.

    Haven’t looked back, either. HRT is not necessary. Menopause is not a disease or a disorder. There’s no need to treat it like one.

  5. Tim says:

    It’s all modern day witchcraft.

    Jesus says; “…you wanna be “safe” ?…you afraid of “death”?? You in the wrong world folks !!!…”.

  6. Sue says:

    Thank you for that analogy. CNN and all other mainstream media promote vaccines which contain monkey and dog kidneys, rabbit brains, worms, calf and horse blood, etc.

    AND, aside from the mixing of genetic material (not a lot of studies published on the repercussions of this, but what has been done suggests some mixing of RNA and DNA), we know that the SV40 virus, unique to the monkeys, is discovered to be the causative factor in very aggressive cancers found in individuals who received the polio vaccine. Vaccines of all kinds are responsible for not only cancer, but all of the autoimmune diseases (including diabetes and Crohn’s) anaphylactic allergies, neurological damage, from mild to severe, seizures, paralysis, SIDS, and a whole lot more. Besides the noxious animal ingredients, they contain toxic chemicals and heavy metals. Nothing healthy to be found in them.

    On top of that, a peek behind the propaganda curtain reveals that vaccines were never the factor in the end of epidemics (most of which have come and gone on their own0 and vaccines actually served to worsen and extend existing epidemics. There have even been instances of smallpox epidemics created by vaccination drives.

    But of course, CNN and others like them, serve their masters at Big Pharma, and whoever else is behind the depopulation agenda.

  7. Thomas Braun says:

    The $30 million study was fraudulent to promote Lillys osteoporosis drugs and discredit Premarin. Added major design flaws intentionally To get the results they wanted. George Bush was on their Board of Directors and made sure the government Paid the $30 million

  8. bluebird says:

    Where are all the Animal right activist?? It is hard to believe humanity can be that cruel. We have really not advanced in the last million years. I can not believe Women are so stupid to take medication for menopause. I am 83 and still get terrible hot flashes, You learn to live with them. No big deal. I have never taken any kind of medication, besides an occasional Aspirin. I would not trust any doctors anymore.

    • Sa Anna says:

      Bluebird personifies the sage common sense so missing today. I am in the process of sending “rejection letters” to the medical groups I used to pay to advise me.

      Adoption of Covid pseudoscience within their practices proved that their ignorance and arrogance makes them a health risk to me and my family.

    • Sue says:

      I have been an activist since 1972. We have soldiered on in the face of extreme censorship. When there were only a few of us on the streets in the 70’s, with our signs and graphic photos, most people taunted us, and some even spit on us.

      In the 80’s, when the A.L.F. raided laboratories, and brought out even more evidence, the media thought that giving it a lot of negative publicity, and calling the liberators “terrorists,” would influence the public to hate the activists. But the fraud of vivisection was being exposed, and they couldn’t have that.

      The media finally realized that giving it any publicity at all was the wrong strategy, and so they have put up that big iron curtain and blacked out any information which was not their official propaganda (“The choice is your baby or a dog, ma’am”).

      The activists are still here, still active, but mainstream won’t allow the truth. You have to go to websites and free speech social media to find the information.

    • eckbach says:

      he “animal rights activist’ fad passed on years ago. Now it’s “woke.”

  9. Laura says:

    More torture of animals under the guise of “medicine” coming from big pharma to add to the growing list. I ma a nurse and even when I was still in my indoctrinated slumber I always thought it was strange that the allopathic medical system makes every normal human milestone into a “disease” that needs medical treatment: from childbirth (countless doctors appointments and a dehumanizing delivery process) to childhood (dozens of vaccines), to puberty (the push for antidepressants), to menopause (women are taught to dread menopause and are told it will be horrific requiring meds), to old age (most people over 65 are taking multiple medications with dangerous, debilitating side effects that end up putting them in nursing homes).
    Most people have absolutely no personal connection with how their own body works and take no personal responsibility for their health choices. When I worked at an urgent care clinic 20 years ago I was astounded when a 57 year old women came in for “treatment”. Her medical complaint that she thought needed urgent attention was she hadn’t had her period in 3 months. I asked her if she had considered that she was in menopause – it literally hadn’t occurred to her. She demanded that the doctor prescribe Premarin for her menopause “disease”. After that encounter I knew I would not be able to work in the medical system for long dealing with that type of mentality.

    • waterproof says:

      I worked in it for 20 years and noted the same. It is curious how ritual abuse closely parallels the indoctrination we all experience regardless of the venue.

      It is true that most people professional or laymen are not the slightest bit curious about how or why the body works. The body and its parts are like a car or an appliance you take to the shop when it malfunctions. Third parties are always involved in maintenance, management and service for hire.

      Ivan Illich wrote about this extraction and obliteration of the mystery of life through medicalization and fragmentation of human ecology. I think of it as a silent bombing campaign.

  10. Roger welsh says:

    Jon Rapport

    My wife has been on Premarin for over 20 years. She is 84.

    She has tried to stop taking it but still has d some problems.

    Your description of the collection source, mares, may have credence in the US. Please check out the UK.


    Roger Welsh

  11. Øystein Jørgensen says:

    Are you sure the “hormone” made from horse urine has the same effect on women’s heslth as real hormone has?
    I don’t think so.

  12. Krofter says:

    If Pfizer treats the lesser among us (horses and all other test animals) in this manner, it comes as no surprise that they run one of the largest criminal enterprises in the world to treat humans with even more abhorrent disdain.

  13. Roundball Shaman says:

    “There are hundreds of thousands of women who take horse urine.”

    The CNNs of the World are utterly useless.

    They love the attention they get for their 24-hour-a-day misuse of the public airwaves and they relish in their self-claimed and self-absorbed and self-deluded status as unapologetic defenders of State Corporation Propaganda being pumped into the air we breathe and fouling it with the horrible stench of greed and manipulation and doing harm to the body politic.

    The original idea of CNN had merit. It was a new idea to have a 24-hour news outlet where people could turn to at any time day or night.

    But that vision was distorted when CNN and others like it became nothing but Garbage Dispensers and ‘The News’ was sidelined for freshly-tailored and carefully cooked
    propaganda provided by wealthy and powerful sewage peddlers. CNN went from attempting to do journalism to being horse manure shovelers for pay. Corporate Whores with no shame peddling smelly stuff and calling it perfume.

    So, maybe there are woman who take horse urine. For that they can also thank the CNNs of the World. For that’s the other thing they dispense to us every day along with their other usual kind of unmitigated bullshhhii…

  14. D. Smith says:

    My sister used to take a combo of premarin and provera when she was in her late 50’s. No matter what I tried to tell her, she took it anyway. She died in 2005 at age 60.

    In 2003, she had her gall bladder removed, and shortly after that she had a total hysterectomy.

    Age 60 may not sound young to some people, but to use older folks, age 60 is really quite young to die. She left behind 3 daughters and 9 grandkids. I still think the whole mess started with the provera.

    • L. Harrison says:

      If I do the math correct, your sister would be my age if she were alive today. I am sorry for your loss. During my days in the sun, when I was in my twenties, thirties and forties, doctors encouraged me to take birth control pills although I never took anything at all during my four healthy pregnancies. Fast forward to around 37. I was having severe bleeding problems – like non-stop. I went to 5 or 6 gynaecologists about the problem, both in Canada and in the U.S. and everyone of these specialists very strongly recommended a complete hysterectomy instead of any other procedures to correct the problem. In fact I was not even aware that even then there were other surgeries to correct the problem and the only thing that they wanted me to do was get the hysterectomy. So, about age 38 I could not tolerate the bleeding anymore and I gave in to a complete hysterectomy. Huge mistake!

      Nothing but insurmountable problems after that. I won’t go into it all but immediately after the surgery and before I left the hospital, the violent hot flashes started – leaving me soaking wet constantly. Even today the sweating soaks through my sheets, mattress, all my daytime clothes as well. Never had this problem before that surgery. After the surgery the doctor suggested I need Premarin, which I took for several months before I switched to a vegetarian type of HRT – Biest. Anyway, in my fifties the doctors said I had developed gall bladder disease and that my gall bladder was fused to my colon. To make a long story short, I lost my gall bladder, appendix and almost half my intestines through the years. Other than the birth control pills and Premarin, I have always led a very healthy lifestyle. I have never smoked or drank alcohol. I believe that if possible, a natural menopause would always be preferable over a hysterectomy.

  15. D. Smith says:

    The people from WPI are crazy. Anyone who knows a whit about nutrition will know that eating ONLY fruits and veggies will makes things worse, not better. Our bodies, especially during menopause, need those good fats from high quality beef and other meats, as well as butter, whole milk, real cream, eggs, etc.

    But of course they’re peddling nonsense, as usual, so you must learn to read between the lines.

  16. Tim_2A says:

    Thank you for the truth about HRT, as I’d wondered why they called that product “Premarin” in the first place. Raising horses just to be ‘chemical factories,’ and then killing them is pretty sickening, too.

    It’s surprising that it’s happening in Canada, as they’re so adamant regarding ‘protection of human rights,’ but animals? Hey, hosers, who cares? I guess.

    Joe Rogan faces criticism enough already, but he seemingly lets it roll right off his back. However, I don’t know his stance on animal abuse, so that might be a different situation.

    When I found Ivermectin for sale locally, the salepeople were mildly surprised that I was interested, and they told me that it was kept “locked up,” so it wouldn’t grow legs. Sounds like the care taken against the loss in ammunition, and it’s almost as valuable, or maybe it’s actually more valuable than ammo? After all, if you don’t have your health, what have you got?

  17. Sean says:

    I dont keep up with Joe at all. Except when friends txt me his video links and ask have you heard that Joe got covid and is….

    I guess I have missed the cool school bus. Dang it.

  18. alison Cline says:

    Wow, Jon, this is definitely news Joe Rogan should be made aware of. I’d bet on him making this an issue to discuss.

    I wonder how many women were given this information by their doctors. I remember years ago reading and hearing about horse urine being the ingredient in HRT. Very glad I never took such as HRT. It is truly amazing to me that women, or men for that matter take the word of AMA Rockafeller drs.

  19. Benny says:


    Another amazing column from the Master!

    Thx Jon

  20. Mike F says:

    Silly Rogan! Next thing he’s gonna tell us limes cure scurvy lol.

  21. Lauran says:

    I agree with this; but I did take bio-identical hormones from a compounded pharmacy, and that solves the problems for many women in menopause, and after.

    I urge everyone to go to compounding pharmacies. They use regular drugs, but many plant based estrogens, and testosterone plant based, as well. Europe is “big” on compounding; but the medical doctors here do not know much about it.

    Find a doctor who advocates natural healing, as well as the traditional.

  22. hyden says:

    As my Acupuncture friend said, Big pharma is toxic poison.
    Joe rogan thinks the virus is real.
    Just another half truth manipulated puppet.

  23. Opie Poik says:

    Horse-urine women sounds like a lost track by Spinal Tap.

  24. Katherine says:

    Years ago, my doc (a female) put me on an HRT (can’t recall if it was Premarin or Prempro). She warned me that I couldn’t take it for more than six months because it may cause breast cancer.

    What’s the point in taking it for six months when menopausal symptoms, as in my case, could last over a decade.

    It would be great, Jon, if you would check into companies that produce natural HRT, like pellets, from companies such as BioTE. Are they safer than the horse urine ones? I have no clue. I’ve been on them going on two years. They’ve eliminated heart palpitations, hot flashes and insomnia. I haven’t felt this good in, well, a decade.

    Katherine D.

  25. Tim_2A says:

    Thank you for the truth about HRT, as I’d wondered why they called that product “Premarin” in the first place. Raising horses just to be ‘chemical factories,’ and then killing them is pretty sickening, too.

    It’s surprising that it’s happening in Canada, as they’re so adamant regarding ‘protection of human rights,’ but animals? Hey, hosers, who cares? I guess.

    Joe Rogan faces criticism enough already, but he seemingly lets it roll right off his back. However, I don’t know his stance on animal abuse, so that might be a different situation.

    When I found Ivermectin for sale locally, the salespeople were mildly surprised that I was interested, and they told me that it was kept “locked up,” so it wouldn’t grow legs. Sounds like the care taken against the loss in ammunition, and it’s almost as valuable, or maybe it’s actually more valuable than ammo? After all, if you don’t have your health, what have you got?

  26. Evangeline says:

    I thought this was what those PETA nuts were for. Rather than get into a lather about killing flies (yes, they did) why don’t they go after Fauci and his minions torturing puppies and this type of nightmare? There is hardly a person alive, Red or Blue, that would not want to end this type of animal abuse tomorrow. On that, people on both sides agree. What does it take to get that done. If the left created a furor about this type of thing, who wouldn’t cheer it.

    But they do nothing that is useful.

    • Rob says:

      See this week’s Tucker Carlson interview with PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo regarding Fauci funding Beagle torture. Strange bedfellows when PETA goes up against government officials for funding animal cruelty.

  27. Ragtime Reggie says:

    Rogan the gatekeeper…….

  28. Grant says:

    Why don’t you explain to this Joe that disease-causing viruses don’t exist and “covid” is therefore not an illness but a hoax?!

    There are many plays around, manufactured by the “controllers”, displaying a false search for truth (the virus was made in Wuhan, etc.), just to keep the belief in viruses alive.

    Robert F. Kennedy has the same problem in accepting the “virus” lies, so his efforts are nullified as well.

  29. Liv4ever says:

    Not sure if this was covered but Premarin is an anachronism for pregnant mare urine

  30. Pam says:

    True. It feeds the racket to buy their HRT pills. Such criminals!

  31. Jay says:

    I once took a tour of the Budweiser Clydesdale Barn at Anhauser Bush in St. Louis Missouri and watched a horse raise his tail to offer beer on tap. I didn’t sample any of it myself, but others seemed interested.

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