Was COVID vaccine fetal tissue obtained by the murder of an infant?

by Jon Rappoport

October 18, 2021

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With the release of COVID vaccines, and then the mandates, we’ve seen a new resurgence of people attempting to gain religious exemptions.

Many of these attempts focus on fetal tissue obtained through abortion.

On January 19, 2021, AnnaMaria Cardinalli published an explosive article in Crisis Magazine, headlined, “Catholic Conscience and the COVID-19 Vaccine.”

Cardinalli details the collection of fetal tissue for the cell line named HEK 293. This cell line was used for “testing” the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines.

Cardinalli writes: “We know that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines do not use any cells derived from abortion in the production process. That is, we know that we are not being directly injected with fetal cells or their engineered descendants (though this fact differs with other manufacturers). We hear that the abortion-derived cell lines were only used in testing, which should somehow comfort us, though it still means that the vaccines from which we seek to benefit depend on the involvement of abortion. We are told that the cell line used in testing came from one abortion, which took place decades ago. These things are all true, but they do not serve to inform us fully.”

“What we may not know follows. The most prominent cell line, called HEK 293, comes from an abortion performed in the 1970’s. It’s labeled 293 because that’s how many experimental attempts the researchers needed to get a working cell line. Therefore, though the abortion-to-experiment ratio is not precisely one-to-one, hundreds of abortions went into the project, even if they didn’t result in the working line.”

“HEK stands for human embryonic kidney. To harvest a viable embryonic kidney for this purpose, sufficiently healthy children old enough to have adequately-developed kidneys must be removed from the womb, alive, typically by cesarean section, and have their kidneys cut out. This must take place without anesthesia for the child, which [anesthesia] would lessen the viability of the organs. Instead of being held, rocked, and comforted in the time intervening between their birth and their death, they have organs cut out of them alive.”

“There is no way that a spontaneous abortion could result in the cell line (as the kidneys cannot remain viable past the brief window in which they must be harvested) or that some brilliant researcher found a way for great good to come out of a rare tragedy by making use of a child’s body donated to science after it was aborted. The deliberate killing of an unwanted child (a little girl, in the case of HEK 293) took place in the tortuous manner it did precisely to obtain her organs for research. The harvest of her organs was the direct cause of her death, prior to which, she was a living child, outside the womb.”

“I fear that Pope Francis and Pope Emeritus Benedict may not have had this information when they received the vaccines. If we re-examine the Vatican statement that ‘it is morally acceptable to receive COVID-19 vaccines that have used cell lines from aborted fetuses in their research and productions process,’ we see that it does not apply here. It does not imagine this scenario. To approve of the currently-available vaccines, it would have to read ‘it is morally acceptable to receive COVID-19 vaccines that have used cell lines from living persons, killed by the harvest of their organs for use in medical research and productions processes,’ but the Church’s moral teachings could never truly bend so far.”

“Similar to the human rights abuses exposed by international tribunal in today’s China, where unwanted individuals such as religious and political dissidents are executed by the harvest of their organs for profit, the little girl whose cells gave rise to the COVID-19 vaccines was brutally sacrificed for the purpose, as were all the children whose cell lines failed before her.”

If Cardinalli is correct in her analysis, not only is the granting of religious exemptions a foregone conclusion; the whole field of fetal tissue research, going back many years and involving many pharmaceutical products should be put on trial.

The people who have been carrying out the murders, the people who have been using the harvested tissue, the companies—all of them—on trial.

I hope many medical professionals will take Cardinalli’s article as a springboard, and weigh in on what she is very clearly stating.

And not just doctors. All people who are shocked by her conclusions.

So far, I see two counter-claims to Cardinalli’s assertions.

One: In the fetal cell line HEK 293, the number does not stand for the number of live-birth abortions performed, in order to obtain a functioning cell line. The number 293 refers to the number of “passages” of the one cell line obtained from one abortion. This difference doesn’t concern me. It’s not central to the fact of murdering babies. And of course, many such live abortions are performed all over the world with the goal of obtaining cells lines for research.

Two: Cardinalli’s claim that the kidneys of the aborted baby must be harvested very quickly is false. The kidneys can survive for a longer period.

On that score, I refer you to a devastating video interview conducted by Robert Kennedy Jr. His guest was SOUND CHOICE PHARMACEUTICAL INSTITUTE “President and Founder, Dr. Theresa Deisher Ph.D., [with] over 30 years of pharmaceutical research and leadership experience. She discovered adult cardiac derived stem cells, has worked on their therapeutic uses as an alternative to human fetal DNA, and leads a team of scientists at AVM Biotechnology dedicated to changing what a diagnosis of cancer, autoimmunity, or chronic infectious disease means to patients and their loved ones. As a result of this work, Dr. Deisher is named as an inventor on over 47 patents.”

In the first 15 minutes of the interview, Deisher makes it quite clear that infants in the womb are taken out alive, with their blood supply functioning (essential) and then killed by cutting out their hearts or their brains. This is what is done in order to obtain tissue that will be turned into fetal cell lines.

Since this act of murder is standard practice, it would appear it was committed against the live baby whose kidney cells became cell line HEK 293, used in testing the COVID vaccines. (More evidence coming in future articles.)

At the top of the interview, Kennedy said he didn’t want to get into the moral aspect of fetal cell lines. But after listening to Deisher, he was shaken. He said so. He said they would have to cover the moral aspect.

The whole world has to.


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54 comments on “Was COVID vaccine fetal tissue obtained by the murder of an infant?

  1. Sean says:

    OMG.

    And I was betting that you would be talking about the SW Airlines today.

    Yeah talk more about this crime. Holy f*$%)&% s@&!

  2. Paul says:

    “The whole world
    has to.”

    ~

    “From the dark tunnel came the noise of marching feet, and soon a force of attendants surrounded the outer circle. Each was carrying what appeared at first to Michelle to be a pole but was then identifiable as an up-pointed pitchfork. And under each arm they carried that object as necessary to the proper performance of the Black Mass as bread and wine are to the Catholic Mass—the body of a baby.”

    Michelle Remembers
    (Smith/Pazder) p. 272

    Most people of this world faint, at the mere thought, that such, could exist.

    I’ve never listened to The World, on much of anything.

  3. Joz Lee says:

    A disgusting shame on the Pope and Cardinals trying to deny communion to Biden, Pelosi for their stance on Abortion. But Pope is all for using aborted babies for Covid Vaccines for ”Greater Good” Catholics must be vaccinated! moral duty

    Bishops declared Monday that Catholics have a “moral responsibility” to be vaccinated against the coronavirus. ”for the common good”,
    “Receiving one of the COVID-19 vaccines ought to be understood as an act of charity toward the other members of our community,”
    WOW! 99% Covid Recovery Rate……

    it’s ”MORAL RESPONSIBILITY” &&&&& ‘CHARITY’ towards others?

    the bishops also add an extended reflection regarding the permissibility of using certain vaccines whose germ lines were originally obtained from the cells of aborted human fetuses.

    “Given the urgency of this crisis, the lack of available alternative vaccines, and the fact that the connection between an abortion that occurred decades ago and receiving a vaccine produced today is remote, inoculation with the new COVID-19 vaccines in these circumstances can be morally justified,” they declare.

    • dnomsed says:

      The False Prophet.

    • Alba says:

      «The common good», thereby the devil shafts the world.
      Bosch & Breughel would find much inspiration in century 21.

    • Xavier says:

      This is the first that I ever heard that the Pope attempted to deny communion to Biden or Pelosi. Are you sure??

      He just had an internationally well publicized audience with disgusting Pelosi last week, where she was graciously received by him.

      She has been completely disrespectful to the Church Fathers in her district on this subject. She is a brazen hag.

      The Pope says he opposes abortion but hardly seem adamant about the matter. He is supposed to meet with Biden shortly. The old rhetorical question, “Is the Pope Catholic?” doesn’t make sense any more. Any time he opens his mouth, he talks about globalist goals as though they were the most important goals in the world, not Christian goals.

      • Joan says:

        Look up Biden excommunication. Or excommunicated. American Bishops have been discussing rewriting the rules of excommunication for public officials. Afterwards, and by the way it was only a discussion, not a conclusion, after that the Vatican came out and said in June of 2021 that this conversation needs to stop. […]

    • Marie says:

      Our faith can be sabotaged when politics steps in, so the wrath of God will be upon us. Millions and millions of murdered babies are now God’s angels and will be there when these murderers are given their last judgement. Animals don’t even do this to their young, so what does that say about humnans?

    • Marie says:

      The Pope and priests who knowingly are aware of a persons state of mortal sin cannot give the Holy Eucharist to anyone in that state , until they go to confession, do their penance and promise never to do it again. Politicians lie, deceive and do all sorts of bad things, even abuse their power to get what they want, and don’t even have the conscience as they violate God’s commandments, especially the 5th: THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

  4. Opie Poik says:

    FDA exposed as a criminal body parts cartel involved in routine harvesting of organs from living human babies

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/10/no_author/fda-exposed-as-a-criminal-body-parts-cartel-involved-in-routine-harvesting-of-organs-from-living-human-babies/

  5. FriedEggs says:

    Orthodox Christian Church > Catholic Church

    Also WI-38 (Winston Institute 38) re: aborted fetal tissue in vaccines.

  6. ReluctantWarrior says:

    It seems clear to me that one of the functions of the ‘vaccine’ (if you want to call it that…and I don’t) is to systemically weaken the immune system so that people become susceptible to whatever underlying conditions they may have as well as any pathogens that they may come into contact with. This way people die from a broad host of causes and not just from the ‘virus.’ Colin Powell has just passed on and this after he was fully vaccinated. They are saying it was from complications of COVID-19 and cancer.

    • Sue says:

      Yes, they’ve had plenty of practice and experience with their other vaccines, with which they created “AIDS,” and a host of other symptoms, including cancer, neurological damage, and all of the autoimmune conditions.

      • Marie says:

        All the public want to know is why they won’t disclose that fact that the U.S. vaccine contains GRAPHENE OXIDE which was exposed early on by an honest scientist with a conscience. It was exposed that China’s vaccine listed it but not the US, when they know that it is toxic?

    • Joyce Williams says:

      Yes, I read early on that one of the first functions that the “vaccine” was designed to do IS to destroy the immune system right off the bat.

    • Marie says:

      I read that this vaccine has no dead pathogen of the virus as most vaccines are made of. So, if it is messing up with our immune system which is our defense from any bacteria or virus invaders, what will happen when our immune system is compromised by the graphene oxide used in this COVID 19 vaccine? A former employee of Pfizer (who quit because of conscience) exposed this.

  7. Space cowboy says:

    I shamefully admit to voting for Claire McCaskill when she first ran for the senate. My wife has Parkinson’s and Claire advocated for”sensible “ research which would find a cure. Even then I believed Parkinson’s is caused by neural toxins proliferated into the environment and like cancer there will never be a cure because powerful people would be liable. Having been persuaded by anecdotal cases where a woman must choose between her own life and her fetus I was leery of regulation of abortion. I’ve come to realize the normalization of fetal termination has been but a step towards normalization of the termination of life. If babies don’t deserve to live, old people are also expendable. It’s the basis of eugenics, I.e. some people deserve to live and some don’t. Rockefeller, Gates and his father, the swelled-head elites have been working for this along time.

  8. Roger welsh says:

    You will keep on talking about “vaccine” . The injections that recipients are receiving are NOT vaccine by definition.

    It more closely mirrors the definition of a poison.

    Adverse reports!? Work it out people.

    • Arby says:

      Well, If you accept germ theory, then you can talk about vaccines in some cases. The covid injections, viral vector and mRNA, are not vaccines, as David Martin explained. If you don’t accept germ theory, which I don’t, then even vaccines aren’t vaccines. They are just poison.

    • Marie says:

      I read the disclosure of one scientist (with a conscience) that this vaccine is not really a vaccine because it has no dead pathogen of the virus that it is supposed to have, to be considered a true vaccine. How can they have a pathogen when this manmade virus is composed of many viruses developed with the “gain in function” as their goal to easily infect humans? This virus’ goal must be for a more sinister purpose like a BIOWEAPON? READ THE EPOCH TIMESIMES, YOU’LL GET MORE INFO ON IT. Now China have all the viruses developed from it, over one hundred per the report. We are in for a very rude awakening for the whole world.

  9. Thank you Jon,

    Although, it’s been isolating over the years to become more and more aware of “Ceasar’s world” and all the lies therein. I’ve lost many friends through this process. But I feel sorry for those who are yet to be initiated into the truth. They will have to cope with how deeply they’ve been betrayed, in so many ways.

    “The whole world has to.”

    Aries full moon on Oct. 20, 2021 Jupiter and Mercury stationing direct at the same time. News and events that have been held back may explode (Aries) forward. This is one of those times where everyone has the opportunity to choose again if they will, or can , continue to stay in denial. Astrologically, the scales are tipping.

    • Marie says:

      I believe you, we will be in for a shock and those in perpetual denial can only kick themselves. May the Holy Spirit bless us all with Christian wisdom.

  10. Walkintherain says:

    Made me cry.

  11. Sue says:

    It amazes me how much drama we weave into the torture and murder of our own kind, even though it doesn’t put a stop to it.

    On the other hand, most people have no concern whatsoever about the torture and murder (billions weekly) of other sentient beings.

    We build soundproof (so the screams won’t bother good citizens) slaughterhouses in which to shackle and hoist them and cut their throats, we build laboratories, in which the most horrific tortures are committed by us against defenseless animals of all kinds.

    And then claim superiority, “made in the image of God.”

    Dr. Albert Schweitzer, renowned humanitarian missionary physician, wrote:

    “Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself know peace.”

    I agree, because experience and observation has taught me one cannot have one foot in and one foot out – commit cruel acts in some realms and not have them cross over into others.

    • Arby says:

      God has said that we can eat meat, as long as it properly bleed it. That’s good enough for me. God gave us that allowance after the flood. Our human parents wrongly chose to know what independence from the Source of life means. God is a God of light. He didn’t lyingly cover that up. And he didn’t destroy those rebels and innocents in Adam’s loins. He allowed that rebellion (and doesn’t disallow choice) but made it clear that it would eventually be a situation that would be terminated (with the actions of foretold ‘seed’ of deliverance).

      As God told our first human parents who decided to rebel and brought on this issue / lesson / court case (which God can’t interrupt or else it never gets resolved), ‘You will struggle all of your days and experience difficulty. Giving birth will be painful’. But, he’s a God of love. What he can do for us, he does. And so, in order to compensate for deficiencies due to our inability to easily feed ourselves and find adequate nutrition, he allowed meat (with the blood prohibition).

      The Issue of Universal Sovereignty is like a court case. We have to have the evidence (experiments with human systems and the development of technology) and examine it and make the case that independence from the Source of life doesn’t work. (God’s way of love [including his guidance] is not inferior to Satan’s way of ‘riches for the strongest’, in which there ‘has to be’ losers.) Then the precedent will be set. We will never again have to watch a barbaric system(s) such as we’ve chafed under for thousands of years arise. The issue will have been settled, the lesson learned and there will be no need for the suffering and destruction that our first parents opened the door to to play out again.

      • Liv4ever says:

        Dr. Andrew Kaufman presents research about the 1954 experiments by Ender which lead to using human fetal kidney cells. He won a Nobel prize for murder. My question to everyone is with all the millions of vaccines produced by pharmaceutical companies world wide, and all the millions of abortions executed annually, is it reasonable to think that they all can be traced back to this singular event in 1954? I seriously doubt it.

        Why would greedy big business pay for something they could easily pick out of a trash can. We’ve all been duped.

      • Marie says:

        Great post. We can only pray for those who believe they are God and can do anything evil for their own aggrandizements. America is in the precipice of a crisis that only God can save us.

    • Deanna Johnston Clark says:

      I clicked a “freedom” blog on youtube and had to turn it off…the jeans were from a known sweatshop in SA, the t shirt from Honduras, the symbolic flannel shirt from Bangladesh. I didn’t see the shoes.

      Very few of us have room to yak about how humane and caring we are…outs sight outs mind is the norm in food, clothes, toys, office supplies.

      However, a newborn human carved up for the public good takes the prize.

      • Marie says:

        My sentiments exactly. We as Americans has lost our loyalty to our own country, more so with corporations whose goal and objectives are mainly for profits. They’ll dance with our enemies and sell us out for profit. I only support American products.

  12. Katherine says:

    I too was stunned, shocked and traumitized when I heard Theresa Deisher’s information. It is horrific, and demonic, if one is allowed to use a very ancient term for pure evil.

    In my view, we must recognize that human beings are capable of great evil…if infected with what the Native Americans called Wetico, or fall into a specific category of mental disorder—the Dark Triad, of Sociopathy, Psycopathy, and Narcissism.

    These people literally have different brain structure, and are incapable of empathy or conscience, and therefore killing and surgically torturing human fetuses, embryos, and babies and elicits no horror or remorse in them as it would in a normal person. And,the Milgram experiment to proves that normal human beings can be coerced into harming, even killing others by an “authority” figure!

    We are so very easily conditioned!!!

    So, critical thinking skills, and moral, as well as mental education is absolutely essential. As is standing up against excessive authoritarian behavior, cruelty, or disrespect of anyone’s individual moral stance. These actions and values are fundamental to maintaining a “sane,” society. .

    Women who have chosen to terminate a pregnancy must be informed that this practice is happening, so that they can stop this action of “selling baby parts,” that Planned Parenthood and others are engaging in. No one has the right to your DNA, or the DNA of your offspring, even if an at will termination of pregnancy is involved, and no one but a monster would utilize living cell likes taken from living fetuses organs. That activity must stop as it is wicked beyond belief.

  13. Jerry B says:

    the sacrifice of a human always occurs according to 1) the longitude and latitude of the murder/sacrifice as the only success to a baal sacrifice is to desicrate a lea line and 2) the date of the sacrifice has to be on a satanic holy day….I’m sure these were both of influence in this fetal sacrifice signifying the absolute perfect blood sacrifice to their dark god baal ….we must confront all who were willing voices in this harvesting….all life begins in the womb…..it’s beyond any normal processing to realize the seething plan to this satanic sacrifice…and I’m sure there are many more…..we are on this planet and we have voices that will not allow this desecration of life….we must protest

  14. BDBinc says:

    The companies and corporations that are torturing, exploiting and murdering sentient beings must stop.

    Agree Sue.

  15. Fidel says:

    Holy shit!

    • hyden says:

      You stole the words right out of my mouth.

      I wonder how much they get paid for these organs. Like how they get paid for each injection given.

  16. Tim_2A says:

    Alex Jones once had a video, which was one of several, and which (I think?) had been obtained by Project Veritas, of a Planned Murder-/Parent-hood high-up offering ‘products’ for sale to undercover ‘buyers,’ and saying a Lamborghini (or was it a Ferrari?) would be nice to have, so the prices would reflect that.

    The word “calvarium” (rather than “recently satanically sacrificed newborn baby’s skull, brain included”) was mentioned, and so were baby LUNGS, HEARTS, and LIVERS.

    There is a so-named ‘elitist’ cannibal cult (>>DEMONIC<< IS the right word) that purchases 'fresh' 'products' from Perpetual Murderhood and incorporates them in everyday food, beverage, and pharmaceutical products, which are then consumed by the sheeple.

    Whether we like it or not, we have unwittingly conspired to continue
    THEIR MURDERS OF THOSE INNOCENTS,
    because of OUR IGNORANCE.

    A TOTAL BOYCOTT of ANY 'purchaser of products' from Perpetual Murderhood is in order.

    The 'prince of the earth' is laughing.

    • Marie says:

      And our government funds Planned Parenthood to promote this barbaric and criminal procedures no matter how you look at at. And we tax payers fund them, so what does that say about us to condone such barbaric procedures? The best we can do is trash all politicians who support abortion of any kind. Remember God’s 5th commandment: THOU SHALT NOT KILL. There is no exception there for scientific research. May God forgive them.

  17. vakzine macht frei says:

    Humanity is almost dead. When a body choose to not eliminate cancer cells, it will die. Humans not only choose not to eliminate the parasites but they worship them. They call them elites.

  18. hyden says:

    The harvest of her organs was the direct cause of her death, prior to which, she was a living child, outside the womb.”

    This article says it came from a fetus…

    https://blog.genofab.com/hek293-cell-line

    HEK293 – stems from a numbering system, making this the 293rd experiment. Originating from a female fetus, ….

    A fetus is Unborn, so they extracted the fetus and then harvest it?.

    HEK 293 cells were generated in 1973 by transfection of cultures of normal human embryonic kidney cells with sheared adenovirus 5 DNA in Alex van der Eb’s laboratory in Leiden, the Netherlands. The cells were obtained from a single, aborted or miscarried fetus, the precise origin of which is unclear.[3][2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells

  19. hyden says:

    Public Discourse. Witherspoon Institute. Retrieved December 23, 2020.

    I received an e-mail a few months ago from Professor Frank Graham, who established this cell line. He tells me that to the best of his knowledge, the exact origin of the HEK293 fetal cells is unclear. They could have come from either a spontaneous miscarriage or an elective abortion. Regardless, the abortions that gave rise to the three cell lines—or in the possible case of HEK293, the miscarriage—happened decades ago.

    van der Eb A. “USA FDA CTR For Biologics Evaluation and Research Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting” (PDF). Lines 14–22: USFDA. p. 81. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2017-05-16. Retrieved August 11, 2012.

    • hyden says:

      Abortion – medical

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      Medical abortion is the use of medicine to end an undesired pregnancy. The medicine helps remove the fetus and placenta from the mother’s womb (uterus).

      There are different types of medical abortions:

      Therapeutic medical abortion is done because the woman has a health condition.

      Elective abortion is done because a woman chooses (elects) to end the pregnancy.

      An elective abortion is not the same as a miscarriage. Miscarriage is when a pregnancy ends on its own before the 20th week of pregnancy. Miscarriage is sometimes called a spontaneous abortion.

      Seems like they have taken cells not from a murdered fetus, but from a fetus do early to survive. So maybe there is no wrong in what they did?

      More research needs to be done. Someone might be able to help add to what i have said.

  20. hyden says:

    Moreover, HEK293 is an established cell line. What this means is that these cells have been used and studied by biologists for nearly half a century. They are well characterized, and they have been validated for their safety. I point this out because it helps explain why it is unheard of for a vaccine manufacturer to seek out new human fetal cells from a recent abortion. Such novel fetal cells would be uncharacterized, unvalidated, and unapproved by regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for human vaccine production. Why waste time, effort, and money to obtain, characterize, and validate new human fetal cells when the classic fetal cell lines obtained decades ago like HEK293 are readily and cheaply available? Regrettably, Chinese scientists have recently established a novel human fetal cell line from an elective abortion for biomedical research. This was unnecessary, especially in light of the proven success of HEK293.

    Moral Guidance on Using COVID-19 Vaccines Developed with Human Fetal Cell Lines

    https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2020/05/63752/

  21. hyden says:

    But what happens if a possible future vaccine for COVID-19 is developed unethically, by using contemporary tissue from aborted children? Could pro-life citizens morally use such a vaccine? This will strike many pro-lifers as absurd; is it not complicity in abortion?

    No. Again, it is not cooperation strictly speaking; the abortions have already been performed. Nor does any individual pro-lifer’s decision to vaccinate contribute in any meaningful way either to any particular future abortion, or to the work of researchers who insist on using fetal tissue. ….

    this guy seems pro use of HEK 293, many seem to.

  22. Deanna Johnston Clark says:

    Can anyone find a common thread that explains all the powerful, or figureheads telling the populace to get this shot?

    I know Catholic Relief Services and other religious “charities” get massive money from USAID, which explains the abortion referrals they constantly give, while technically not doing them themselves.

    All these ‘authorities’ answer to a common uber-power…they all use the same excuses, the same rhetoric, the same silly phrases. Believe it or not, much of it resembles the early Nazi justifications.

  23. Joan says:

    While it is in fact true that under most definitions of religious exemption you could use this information to write a good defense and GET a religious exemption, it is also true that the pope and multiple religious leaders have directly addressed the fact that the ethical issues involved in developing vaccines are outweighed when there is a public health threat that a vaccine is the best response to.

    It seems to be an awful lot of eagerness to embrace extreme right-wing sources here.

    I don’t know who Jon Rappaport is but several people who were trying to convince me that all of the primary source material that I’ve read in the last year-and-a-half is wrong, those folks have directed me over here.

    You are supposed to be a beacon of light and I’m looking to see if there’s any late here whatsoever.

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